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Apple's Top Free Charts Incorrectly Ranking Apple Apps on Some iOS Devices
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Exactly and that's why they have $200B in the bank. Handle it.Meanwhile at Apple:
Apple's Top Free Charts on some iOS devices appear to be incorrectly ranking Apple apps like iMovie, Pages, Keynote, and Numbers. As discovered by Sensor Tower and shared by TechCrunch, on some iOS devices, the App Store's Top Free Chart lists Pages, Numbers, and Keynote at higher ranks than on the desktop App Store and on other iOS devices.
For example, on an iPad mini 2 and an iPhone 5s, we found iMovie, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers all listed within the top 10 free apps, all at different positions. On an iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s Plus, iPad Air 2, and iPad Pro, the only Apple app in the top 20 free apps is iTunes U, which also matches up with the desktop version of the App Store. iTunes U, according to Sensor Tower's data, is the only app along with GarageBand that should be listed in the top 10 of the free chart.
While MacRumors did not see the errant chart behavior on more recent devices, both TechCrunch and Sensor Tower have seen problematic ranking numbers on a range of different devices running iOS 9.1. Devices running iOS 8.3 did not seem to be affected by the problem.
App Store Top Free Charts on iPad mini
As TechCrunch points out, it's not clear if the discrepancy between App Store Top Chart listings is a bug or an intentional manipulation by Apple, but given the significantly different results from device to device, even those that are the same generation, it seems more like a bug than something done deliberately.Apps like Pages, Keynote, Numbers, and iMovie are listed in the Top Free Charts because they are provided to iOS users at no cost with the purchase of an iOS device, but these apps are not free, an issue that could potentially be causing chart problems. All of the above listed apps sell for $4.99 to $9.99.
App Store Top Free Charts on iPhone 6s Plus
Apple has, however, manipulated the App Store results in the past to highlight its own apps, so it could be the result of a direct work to promote its line of iWork apps to specific devices or specific users, but without comment from Apple, it's difficult to tell.
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I guess the devices are not on the same store. Did you check that also to make sure??
I'm just guessing, but since people are seeing different results on different devices, this bug could be related to the changes Apple has made to App Store downloads with the new feature app thinning. In simplified but maybe not completely correct terms, maybe one app is in the top 20 for iPhone 6s downloads but not for iPad Air downloads.
Yes, this scientific analysis of Apple's top 10 rankings clearly proves your point.
The gong show is these forums. They go from "huh, I wonder why that is" to "Apple is greedy, evil and dying!" in 10 comments or less.
I miss the days when we had rational discussions among informed and curious people.
And this is "news" to me because.....
Who cares!!!!!!
I'm grateful my emails working, my phone rings, my texts go thru and I receive them, my voicemail is working, I can surf the net or I could be a victim of an act of terrorism.
I mean the obsession on this endless Apple minutiae is mind blowing.
I'll repeat this a-gain. 230 million iPhone 6/6+, 5s etc sold last year. 230 million. Add another 30 million iPods, iPads, 20 mil macs, more or less... I mean do any of you stop for just a second and think about that out of those - all those and more Apple products in the wild - the number has to be over HALF A BILLION -- in the scheme of things I think Apple overall is doing a pretty good - NOT PERFECT -- job at keeping our devices working -- in general.
Apparently I'm one of the few that think the reality of keeping services going on this magnitude for THIS company is a feat all in its self. Apple is a considerably young company in this area of cell phones etc. In fact just under 10 years...
I'd bet the farm that IF Microsoft had 500 million of its own pieces of HARDWARE out in the wild we'd more than likely be hearing utter horror stories about their inability to SERVICE that hardware with updates etc..
I need go no further with Microsoft that citing my very own experiences with their Office for Mac software suite. I live with "major security updates" at least once a week from Microsoft. Once a week..
You guys complain about Apple and its ball dropping.. You ain't seen nothing till you call either Microsoft or Adobe( I've had wait times of 2 hours for only software) for tech support. Try it sometime and you'll soon see you good you have it at Apple..
Who cares!!!!!!
I'm grateful my emails working, my phone rings, my texts go thru and I receive them, my voicemail is working, I can surf the net or I could be a victim of an act of terrorism.
I mean the obsession on this endless Apple minutiae is mind blowing.
I'll repeat this a-gain. 230 million iPhone 6/6+, 5s etc sold last year. 230 million. Add another 30 million iPods, iPads, 20 mil macs, more or less... I mean do any of you stop for just a second and think about that out of those - all those and more Apple products in the wild - the number has to be over HALF A BILLION -- in the scheme of things I think Apple overall is doing a pretty good - NOT PERFECT -- job at keeping our devices working -- in general.
Apparently I'm one of the few that think the reality of keeping services going on this magnitude for THIS company is a feat all in its self. Apple is a considerably young company in this area of cell phones etc. In fact just under 10 years...
I'd bet the farm that IF Microsoft had 500 million of its own pieces of HARDWARE out in the wild we'd more than likely be hearing utter horror stories about their inability to SERVICE that hardware with updates etc..
I need go no further with Microsoft that citing my very own experiences with their Office for Mac software suite. I live with "major security updates" at least once a week from Microsoft. Once a week..
You guys complain about Apple and its ball dropping.. You ain't seen nothing till you call either Microsoft or Adobe( I've had wait times of 2 hours for only software) for tech support. Try it sometime and you'll soon see you good you have it at Apple..
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Some people care, some don't, just like it is with pretty much anything else in life. Doesn't make it something that's not news or not worthy of being talked about by those who might care in one way or another.
Ummm...if you are trying to make a living by writing apps for the store it's possible that it matters quite a bit.
Is the FaceTime app still showing up on the Mac App Store Top 10 Purchased? It was deprecated with OS X 10.7, only works on 10.6.8 (how many of THOSE users are left??)…so this store ranking issue has persisted for a LONG TIME, years. And Apple clearly doesn't care, because the only explanation would be that NO ONE at Apple actually monitors the App Store charts! At the very least, every day that FaceTime app is in the Top 10, Apple robs a legitimate partner/developer of that prestige. It has gone on for years, and they have not seen fit to resolve that slight. Apparently the iOS App Store gets no greater amount of attention from Apple.
[cross-posted to TechCrunch]
[cross-posted to TechCrunch]
Using "some" in a title is a sign a journalistic bankruptcy, especially how often its used here.
So, how big is some, 1, 30%, is it a real issue at all; who knows... That's why you shouldn't use it in conveying info in a non casual setting. But, in a clickbait setting.. It works...
Yes, this scientific analysis of Apple's top 10 rankings clearly proves your point.
The gong show is these forums. They go from "huh, I wonder why that is" to "Apple is greedy, evil and dying!" in 10 comments or less.
I miss the days when we had rational discussions among informed and curious people.
Funny, I don't remember saying Apple is greedy, evil or dying maybe you should re read my post. I even said they make good hardware. If you haven't noticed how glitchy their software releases and networks tools have been in the past few years then good for you. I remember when I used to get a system upgrade from Apple and it was an actual upgrade sans bugs. Loosing SJ is really hurting the quality control. He may have been a jerk but he made sure stuff just worked.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: People tend to try apps that is popular. The same goes for movies and music. I purchased an album from iTunes in 2007 or 2008, can't remember which year... Anyway the album is called "In between" by Paul van Dyk. He is now my favorite artist and I have almost all his albums. I listened to the 30 seconds preview of the songs then decided to buy it. This was all made possible because he was in the top 10 albums on iTunes that day. He was even featured on apple.com and had a special web page. This is back when Apple had featured artist pages on iTunes using their Logic Pro software. It also showed their music gear and a couple paragraphs about the artist with pictures etc. Very cool. But yes it does matter what's in the top charts because it will influence some peoples decision in what they buy or try.
We need a top 'Top Charts' chart to get a better idea of what the most popular charts are. As long they are accurate I suppose.
More seriously, I do think discoverability of apps has never been great for either the iOS or Mac App Stores, they obviously want to strike a balance between simplicity and information for a wide range of users, but I do think there must be better ways to do it.
Right, the whole meme of it was all better in SJ days despite actual facts not supporting that in this very forums back history, check it out yourself if you have the patience. Some, pretty big disasters in early IOS releases.. The kind that makes phone unusable for most; that hasn't happened lately btw. Same thing with OSX, some really crappy early releases that were honed and then revered rosily, forgetting how those releases actually became solid.
I don't remember saying you did... Maybe you should re-read my post. I said the forums have become ridiculous.
That statement was just attached to my reply to you saying that unexplained inconsistencies in the top 10 rankings seems like weak support for your complaints about a lack of innovation and walled gardens.
You did remind me of a hair trigger in the forums I forgot to mention, though: the deification of Jobs. "None of this would have happened when Steve was here!" "What?! The Cube? Antenna gate?!" "I'd expect a Samsung lover like you to bring up the stupid antenna-- it wasn't the problem everyone said it was." "Oh, maybe I was just holding it wrong. With all their money, Apple could have afforded to properly fix those antennas and buy my daughter a pony!"
*sigh*
But surely a few stutters in animation represent a horrific issue that is worse than anything ever beefier and clearly demonstrate that Apple was perfect before and has just completely went downhill. /s