Apple's top Mac Pro computer costs more than the average car! $45,000 for a computer!

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  1. zen6 Suspended

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    This is what CBS said.

    Can anyone explain how can this make any sense? Anyone is planning to buy this maximum power imac pro?
     
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    People bought SGI computers for more then that.


    "SGI will further cut the price of its Onyx2 Reality supercomputer with two 250-MHz R10000 processors by 45 percent, to $75,000."

     
  3. zen6 thread starter Suspended

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    Mac Pro is not a supercomputer
     
  4. MacDonaldTrump macrumors regular

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    Some people would use a computer more than a car.
    Some would make more money off a computer than they could doing Uber.
    Resale value may also hold up better with the Mac I think, and has limited ongoing maintenance costs.
     
  5. zen6 thread starter Suspended

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    Linus Tech Tips had done the math and the basic model of Mac Pro price is around 200% if you buy though components separately. Dont you think that is too much?
     
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    And it isn't priced as one.

     
  7. Acidsplat macrumors regular

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    The new Mac Pro is not meant for you or the average consumer. Apple diluted the "Pro" name for such a long time, people are shocked that it now means truly "Professional".

    The average consumer or gamer wouldn't saturate a fraction of what a maxed out model is designed for.
     
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    I think if you are a business running the need for such a computer you would probably be invoicing jobs enough to pay for itself rather soon. I also think the support apple offer may help some businesses pay that 200% for reassurance of such an investment.

    I think cars and computers and subscription based apps all cost too much, it’s how the world is and we all feed off it.
     
  9. neutrino23 macrumors 68000

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    And your point is? Every company sells products for more than the cost of goods. If you want your house painted I’ll bet it costs much more than the price of the paint alone at Home Depot.
     
  10. thekev macrumors 604

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    A fully upgraded mac pro might make sense for some businesses, but this comparison is just bizarre. SGI eventually went bankrupt using that business model, after peaking in the 1990s. It's also from a totally different era and doesn't fill the same niche as the mac pro does today. Supercomputers today generally run some flavor of Linux, and Apple has never made any attempt to change that. It's simply out of scope for Apple.

    Apple got rid of XGrid long ago, without improving support for frameworks like mpi for distributed frameworks. They have never supported any part of Openmp, even though the open source version of Clang does. They symlink gcc to their version of Clang, which is one of the few parts that is just ridiculous nonsense, particularly considering that not all gcc flags are supported by their version of Clang. I could go on, but it's obviously not their target market.

    The mac pro itself has been focused on demanding types of content creation in the past. I haven't really thought about this round, but I imagine it's not designed around a maxed out configuration. Presenting it this way just helps drive rageclicks.
     
  11. davidec macrumors regular

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    whoever is gonna get a maxed out 28 core 1.5TB Ram double MPX whammer makes a few million a year from their trade. They won't care how much it costs - certainly not more than their car! As far as you and I are concerned, we will just get a more modestly specced Mac Pro!
     
  12. Glockworkorange macrumors 68000

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    Man is that thing ugly!
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    The people who truly "need" this machine aren’t personally buying it. These are for for corporate purchasers, like skybox suites and court side seats. Why do you think Apple charges $1k for a stand? They know companies will pay for it without batting an eye.

    ALL enterprise products and software are insanely overpriced, because the companies will pay it and deduct it at tax time.

    People should really just think of this thing as an enterprise product as opposed to say, a Ferrari or hyper car for the wealthy, as very few individuals will be buying these out of pocket.
     
  13. davidec macrumors regular

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    What? I truly need this machine and have have done so every since I purchased a maxed out 2012 MP. I make music and that machine is on its last legs. I'll be spending whatever is the sweet spot for this machine. FYI Most people won't bother with the stand or the display, it doesn't come tied to the MP!!!!
     
  14. UBS28 macrumors 6502a

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    The Mac Pro is a real super computer which has similar GPU power as a Xbox One X (and soon new consoles will come out which are even more powerful)?

    For $6000, just build a 32-core AMD Ryzen “Amateur/Gaming/Not-For-You” Monster PC which will run circles around most configurations of the Mac “Pro”.

    There is nothing “Professional” about the Mac “Pro”. If my wedding photographer starts charging me $10.000 because he now has to edit his pictures on these severly overpriced machines, he will loose me as a client.
     
  15. Zellio macrumors 65816

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    Don't some of you have better things to do then just make up excuses all day long for Apple? This topic is nothing but excuses
     
  16. William Payne macrumors 6502a

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    Wedding photographers don’t need this Mac Pro. People who do advertising or commercial work maybe.

    But there are different levels of work.
     
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    Wedding photographers for riches do serious works comparing to normal people kind
     
  18. Zellio macrumors 65816

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    So you are saying that a machine with an Xbox One X graphics chip is a supercomputer?

    You know that the 3do was the best consumer graphics of 1993? And that was $200 more then the xbox one x! So you are trying to say that a supercomputer in 1993 would be running doom like this?



    The demos in your own video disprove this, as well as other demos like this for the onyx:



    Shill harder please.
     
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    Depends on your clients.
     
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    If you are hiring a wedding photographer on a regular basis, you are doing something wrong... :p
     
  21. michelb76 macrumors member

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    Check out offerings from boxx.com, easily goes up to 120k. 10k is nothing for machines like this and most studios earn them back in a year or on a project. HP and Dell have similar offerings. If you think you can get similar performance and expandability with your custom built AMD 32 core blabla, you're flat out wrong, and you're not in the businesses that make use of these workstations.
     
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    Rather than pricing the components separately, a better idea would be to price up a competing OEM build which actually ends up considerably more expensive.

    And by the way: Linus' idea that an EATX Chassis for $300 is in any way equivalent to a workstation chassis is ludicrous. Also funny how he doesn't mention any $400+ heatsinks necessary to provide stable overhead.

    He's a PC builder so he just prices components and slaps them together. There's a little more to that in a workstation computer because stability and post sales warranty is essential.

    The reason he doesn't bring attention to other workstation pricing like the below is because:

    1) He gets more clicks from Apple products
    2) Everybody loves an opportunity to talk about Apple price gouging
    3) He's possibly a little ignorant about how businesses buy and maintain workstations

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    Some people spend more than what a maxed out Mac Pro will cost on a wristwatch, and then will only wear it a few days a year - explain that first, then we'll talk about why someone might spend a lot of money on a production tool that they actually use for 8hrs+ a day to earn money with.
     
  24. William Payne macrumors 6502a

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    This is really correct!!! Same with televisions. People will spend huge money on a tv yet when it comes to tools to earn a living with “no way”.

    I looked at a watch once that was $17500 NZD I can’t afford it but I still want it.
     
  25. zen6 thread starter Suspended

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    I honestly dont think this mac pro three fans anti heat idea would work very well if someone push thr machine to 100% load all day long. There isnt any fan or anything to actively pull out the heat.
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    It only starts at $3395, enough to buy 3 Apple monitor stands
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