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Was there a couple of weeks ago during Thanksgiving. Exterior store design is pretty cool though interior is standard Apple Store. Glass cube is essentially on the 3rd floor of the store which "pops" up into the mall's courtyard. The store is access through the floors below the mall (1st and 2nd floors which are under the courtyard).

The Zorlu Center is pretty interesting though pretty generic in terms of design. Many new malls throughout the developing world share the same design language.
 
If the iPhone 6 series was desired with structural rigidity in mind, like that building, durability would be greatly improved. :)
 
It's a shame that while the store's design is getting awards globally, the customer service given inside is hideous, all time low and causing Apple to lose a lot of customers.

Apple is worldly renown for their excellent customer service yet in Turkey they are just so bad.

-You literally can't get an appointment despite the two stores. (Seriously, you can't)
- They do not (or can not) help you with products bought from the USA despite them still being covered by warranty still.
- You can't get anything done without an appointment. Even a trivial thing like changing a broken MagSafe charger or something.

I hope they fix that soon but to do so they'd need to open at least 5 more stores in Istanbul only. Two stores just can't cover the demand from a 17 million people city and it is causing Apple to lose its image and customers at the same time. Apple should do something about this.
 
It's a shame that while the store's design is getting awards globally, the customer service given inside is hideous, all time low and causing Apple to lose a lot of customers.

Apple is worldly renown for their excellent customer service yet in Turkey they are just so bad.

-You literally can't get an appointment despite the two stores. (Seriously, you can't)
- They do not (or can not) help you with products bought from the USA despite them still being covered by warranty still.
- You can't get anything done without an appointment. Even a trivial thing like changing a broken MagSafe charger or something.

I hope they fix that soon but to do so they'd need to open at least 5 more stores in Istanbul only. Two stores just can't cover the demand from a 17 million people city and it is causing Apple to lose its image and customers at the same time. Apple should do something about this.
Dostum ülkemizildeki bir hizmeti kotulemeye gerek yok.
Evet çok youn olmasndan dolay randevu problemi var . Bununla alakal hzla daha çok genius almlar yapldna dair bilgiler var.
Demem iki daha Türkiye bu hizmet konusunda yeni. Biraz tecrübeye ihtiyaç var.
Ayrca apple in kaliteli servis anlayn ciddi anlamda kötüye kullanan bir kitle de var Türkiye de. Bizim miletinizde az deil basit eylerden ötürü younluk oluturmay seviyoruz..
 
Dostum ülkemizildeki bir hizmeti kotulemeye gerek yok.
Evet çok youn olmasndan dolay randevu problemi var . Bununla alakal hzla daha çok genius almlar yapldna dair bilgiler var.
Demem iki daha Türkiye bu hizmet konusunda yeni. Biraz tecrübeye ihtiyaç var.
Ayrca apple in kaliteli servis anlayn ciddi anlamda kötüye kullanan bir kitle de var Türkiye de. Bizim miletinizde az deil basit eylerden ötürü younluk oluturmay seviyoruz..

I wasn't bashing the service in the country per se, I was just mentioning the known "fact" that 9 out of 10 customers leaving both Istanbul Apple Stores are unhappy. That in turn creates a bad image for Apple in the country amongst normal people who do not follow tech related news and rumours closely.

I know that the intentions of Apple is good, I know it is not completely their fault and I know from first hand experience that they have trained the employees well enough, that they know what they're talking about, they're helpful and kind. (On the contrary to every other electronics/tech shop in the country which is a good thing)

Yet what they should do is open more Apple stores or consider the possibility that not every customer service systtem developed in North America might apply to every market and culture in the world. (That goes for aforomentioned turkish people's opportunistic attitude towards Apple's customer service mentality)

Ps. The reason I wrote this reply in English is so people reading can also understand, do not get me wrong please.
 
I wasn't bashing the service in the country per se, I was just mentioning the known "fact" that 9 out of 10 customers leaving both Istanbul Apple Stores are unhappy.

Since you put 'fact' in quotes, I'm pretty sure that this know fact isn't a fact at all.
 
So making a building look like a Mac Mini with clear sides is worthy of a "structural" award? WTF are these people smoking???? It's a freaking BOX. Since when is a BOX worthy of a "Supreme Award" ? My god, this world is soooo arse backwards these days. Go look at some classic gothic cathedrals if you want to see structural worthy buildings. Some have been standing for half a millennium and took more than 4 lines to design a blueprint of the overall shape. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I wasn't bashing the service in the country per se, I was just mentioning the known "fact" that 9 out of 10 customers leaving both Istanbul Apple Stores are unhappy. That in turn creates a bad image for Apple in the country amongst normal people who do not follow tech related news and rumours closely.

I know that the intentions of Apple is good, I know it is not completely their fault and I know from first hand experience that they have trained the employees well enough, that they know what they're talking about, they're helpful and kind. (On the contrary to every other electronics/tech shop in the country which is a good thing)

Yet what they should do is open more Apple stores or consider the possibility that not every customer service systtem developed in North America might apply to every market and culture in the world. (That goes for aforomentioned turkish people's opportunistic attitude towards Apple's customer service mentality)

Ps. The reason I wrote this reply in English is so people reading can also understand, do not get me wrong please.

Well, mostly to amend (and regretfully support) what you are criticizing on Apple's operations in Turkey:
1) Two stores (and both located in Istanbul) have proved to be totally inadequate: Istanbul, itself needs at least 4-5 stores, and highly populated towns like Ankara & Izmir, at least one and very immediately.
2) The present day fact that they don't service and honour warranties for USA MARKET products is mostly for GSM based products, not for every for-USA gear. But it seems they presently have serious limitations in what they can service: for example take your iPad which is still under warranty and ask to replace a crippled screen or replace a battery. They can't and won't do it as their technical staff or infrastructure are not yet authorised. I don't really know what they can do in the USA for similar cases but Turkey's consumers are still highly "repair it" motivated
rather than "swap it"!
3) To make things worse, these two Istanbul-Turkey based Applestores are now authorised (forced) to serve foreign customers from Greece, Bulgaria, Syria, Lebanon & Iraq. In my opinion, Apple's policy for servicing their products within that "genius system" in this part of the world is practically unworkable. They should open a huge "servicing, repair and regeneratiom/refurbishing" center! (No need to raise an eyebrow: there's a "first" in everything!...)
4) I am a frequent visitor of that Zorlu Applestore
and drop in the place at least twice a week. ( I also live quite nearby, just 15 min driving from the place...) I am one of the priviliged customers who was allowed to buy a OnetoOne without purchasing any Mac hardware from that store due to that Apple hardware collection you can see in my signature. But I'm a 63 year old vintage engineer, still transiting from Windows to Mac! So these sessions are really very useful for me. The trainers I met till recently really taught me a lot but more recently the newbee trainers are pretty much "weak" and I can see some of the more experienced trainers being shifted to other duties! A week ago, I showed my rMBP's screen exhibiting artifacts to the trainer during the 1to1 session, and the chap accepted the "problem" and urged me to take a Genius Bar appointment (that rightfully dreaded issue, but let's face it: there's no other way to service all these people...). My warranty will be expiring in 6-7 months time and he (with the best of intentions) suggested that a free of charge screen replacement should be possible! Luckily (after the session) I met a former trainer I well knew, and he fixed that problem in 20 seconds. Had I taken that laptop to the Genius Bar, I would naturally loose a lot of face!!!

To make the long story short: nothing is perfect and at all times there always will be ups and downs. But we hope Apple should practice solutions maybe in a more Oriental way and with some unorthodox flexibilty, as this particular geography is used to: we all know the saying-- -- "in Rome, do as Romans do"!
 
So making a building look like a Mac Mini with clear sides is worthy of a "structural" award?

Well actually, yes. In general glass isn't load bearing.

If they made those same cathedrals out of glass, they'd get an award too. Good luck with that.

Note: this award isn't for aesthetics, it's for technology. I'm sure the first steel frame building got the same award way back when. Same with the first curtain wall building, cast iron, etc etc.
 
So making a building look like a Mac Mini with clear sides is worthy of a "structural" award? WTF are these people smoking???? It's a freaking BOX. Since when is a BOX worthy of a "Supreme Award" ? My god, this world is soooo arse backwards these days. Go look at some classic gothic cathedrals if you want to see structural worthy buildings. Some have been standing for half a millennium and took more than 4 lines to design a blueprint of the overall shape. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

it's literally 5 components.. 4 pieces of glass and 1 roof.

i'm sorry but that's quite an amazing accomplishment for a transparent structure at this size..
 
Neat :cool:

so, Apple going doing the "lets makes buildings to match the simplicity of our phones"

Good job this is in a mall huh...... IF this thing was outside in the open area, it would tumble down in storms.
 
Easy when there are no wind loads to worry about. I doubt you could do this if it was outside and open to the elements.

If you look carefully, it's probably 12 pieces of glass (3 per side) and a roof, the limitations being the size of glass that can be manufactured in one piece. Structural glass is not a new technology.

Quite neat though how the floor appears to be sunken, so that the proportions of glass height to roof mimics the Mac Mini, albeit slightly squat.
 
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Easy when there are no wind loads to worry about. I doubt you could do this if it was outside and open to the elements

it actually is open to the elements.. albeit shielded a bit:

applebox.jpg




If you look carefully, it's probably 12 pieces of glass (3 per side) and a roof, the limitations being the size of glass that can be manufactured in one piece. Structural glass is not a new technology.

i think you're seeing the panels on the walls at the level below.. each side of glass is a single panel.


"Clear glazed single panel walls with no connections to distract the eye, 10m long by 3m high on four sides, provide an efficient structural form capable of resisting seismic loads, while providing total transparency and architectural purity. The lightweight ultra-thin roof made of CFRP panels (carbon fibre reinforced plastic) seamlessly joined on site, provides a completely smooth uniform soffit while also improving the seismic performance of the whole structure. In such a minimalist project the detailing required particular attention, the result being a total absence of fixings, with the five panels being held together by structural silicone."
 
Well if it's one piece of glass 10m x 3m on each side, that's exceptional, possibly world breaking. Could be acrylic glass perhaps.
 
Well if it's one piece of glass 10m x 3m on each side, that's exceptional, possibly world breaking. Could be acrylic glass perhaps.

Perhaps if it were a Samsung store . . .

Seriously, acrylic scratches in a dusty wind, and it can't be called glass in any case. Perhaps you were thinking of polycarbonate, but that isn't Apple's style either.

Give them a decade or two and they'll be using floating glass spheres for stores.
 
I wasn't bashing the service in the country per se, I was just mentioning the known "fact" that 9 out of 10 customers leaving both Istanbul Apple Stores are unhappy. That in turn creates a bad image for Apple in the country amongst normal people who do not follow tech related news and rumours closely.

I know that the intentions of Apple is good, I know it is not completely their fault and I know from first hand experience that they have trained the employees well enough, that they know what they're talking about, they're helpful and kind. (On the contrary to every other electronics/tech shop in the country which is a good thing)

Yet what they should do is open more Apple stores or consider the possibility that not every customer service systtem developed in North America might apply to every market and culture in the world. (That goes for aforomentioned turkish people's opportunistic attitude towards Apple's customer service mentality)

Ps. The reason I wrote this reply in English is so people reading can also understand, do not get me wrong please.

The reason for this is too many customer service people for not enough stores. That' the issue here. In the US, there is a lot more outlet of Apple stuff than in Turkey.
 
Shame so much focus is on the architecture on the retail outlets instead of the architecture of their software. Would iOS 8 receive a similar award for design excellence? I don't think so .....

Right, because the same team of people work on the building AND software design. :rolleyes:
 
Right, because the same team of people work on the building AND software design. :rolleyes:

You mean like people who are employed to cover both hardware design and software design? Obviously no, that could never happen.
 
You mean like people who are employed to cover both hardware design and software design? Obviously no, that could never happen.

That's not what I said, that's actually reasonable. The post I replied to was implying that resources were "taken" from the software developers that created iOS and those same software engineers were tasked to be architects instead. That's ridiculous.
 
Shame so much focus is on the architecture on the retail outlets instead of the architecture of their software. Would iOS 8 receive a similar award for design excellence? I don't think so .....

Right, because the same team of people work on the building AND software design.

You mean like people who are employed to cover both hardware design and software design? Obviously no, that could never happen.
That's not what I said, that's actually reasonable. The post I replied to was implying that resources were "taken" from the software developers that created iOS and those same software engineers were tasked to be architects instead. That's ridiculous.

I included all the post relating what was said above and have set a bold type face on my replies to help separate them. As you and others can clearly see, there is no implying as you put it. I was criticising the fact that iOS 8 had so many glitches, that it seems somewhat ironic that we celebrating what in essence is packaging, while ignoring or sweeping under the rug the issues that iOS8 faces.
 
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