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imacken

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I tried to access the Appleseed forums using the usual link appleseed.apple.com, but that just redirects to a kind of generic thing that when logged in, doesn't show any forums that I can see.
Are the old Appleseed discussion forums dead?
 
There's something out there called Project Appleseed that has nothing to do with computers. The site your link takes me to* is also listed, on page three, on my search for "appleseed forums". And yes. Project Appleseed has a forum. I was hoping to find an article or announcement about Apple's appleseed forum being closed down, but that didn't come up. I was never aware of it.

*beta.apple.com
 
Thanks guys, but no these links are not what I’m thinking of. Appleseed is an invitation only Apple beta program that has a set of forums. I used it for years, but haven’t accessed it for some time. The links I used just redirect to Apple beta site.
 
Discontinued by Apple in 2023
9 July 2023 https://web.archive.org/web/20230709230706/https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/welcome
vs.
23 September 2023 redirects to beta.apple.com https://web.archive.org/web/20230923195644/https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/welcome

 AppleSeed .jpg
 
Once Apple opened up dev betas to pretty much anyone, there was no longer any need for it.

This site provides the best beta discussion forums imo.
 
I was using the AppleSeed discussion forms as recently as October of 2024. I’ve been an AppleSeed member for YEARS, but I was never super involved in the discussion forms. Still, they were a valuable resource and felt like a little private club even after Public Beta was a thing.

Something about watchOS 11 destroyed my Series 9’s ability to charge or hold a charge, and Apple Support refused to replace it under warranty or AppleCare while it was on beta software. This was a huge pain in the ass and soured me on doing free labor for Apple. Before anyone chimes in, I definitely knew and accepted this risk beforehand, you don’t need to scold me. Anyway, I decided this experience changed the cost/benefit equation for me and I almost entirely stopped running betas and stopped paying attention to the emails they sent, though I never unenrolled and still have access to them in Software Update. Since October 2024, I would very rarely install an RC of a point update if I had read it solved an issue I was having with the stable public release, but then I’d immediately get off the beta train at the next opportunity. And I never again put beta software on my watch, full stop.

For the uninitiated, the AppleSeed builds for the last many years were essentially identical to the Developer builds, but my Software Update would show them as distinct (also distinct from Public builds). Even if I rarely/never installed them, they were always a couple of taps away.

Now along comes 27 OSes and I gotta admit I’m feeling the itch again. While I’m not willing to run betas of 27 OSes yet, I’ve heard that 26.6, not yet released but also in beta, prepares the new Spotlight index that Siri AI and other features will need, so I just installed the 26.6 AppleSeed beta on my iPad today and went looking for the discussion boards for the first time in almost two years. Not only can I not find them, this thread seems to be one of the few mentions I could find online of the boards being inaccessible. I’m not terribly surprised, but it’s too bad.

If I find anything else more definitive, I’ll come back here and post about it just for the public record. If someone knows what happened in my time away, please chime in. @imacken, did you ever find out what happened?
 
No I didn’t find out what happened. Like you said, it’s almost like they never existed judging by the information that’s out there - or not out there!
 
No I didn’t find out what happened. Like you said, it’s almost like they never existed judging by the information that’s out there - or not out there!
Yeah, it's very weird! I can't even find an e-mail from AppleSeed saying they were retiring the boards, though it's possible I got one and deleted it.

Hopefully one of our other secret AppleSeed friends from back in the day will help us out here and set the record straight.
 
Yeah, it's very weird! I can't even find an e-mail from AppleSeed saying they were retiring the boards, though it's possible I got one and deleted it.

Hopefully one of our other secret AppleSeed friends from back in the day will help us out here and set the record straight.
I’ve received no messages stating the boards were retiring. I see no sign that they exist anymore. RIP 😢

For the record, I did log on to them successfully late last year, maybe late fall time. It hasn’t been that long.
 
I think it closed down with the start of the Tahoe beta program. It was certainly active in the first half of 2025.

There was a notice on the forum itself about it closing. No email was sent.
 
Nothing more than boilerplate management speak. I kind of agree that there's little point to AppleSeed, given that anyone can test the betas nowadays.

(They must get thousands of reports every month: how staff are supposed to triage all that information and act on it, I have no idea.)
 
Appleseed builds are still available and they along with dev betas are not initially available to the public, so there is still a point to it.
 
Appleseed builds are still available
Yes, I know; but the point of having AppleSeeders was to allow non-developers access to betas. Now that Apple has made betas public, it gets loads of "non-developer" feedback, even if the public betas don't get every build.

I don't know if people still get invited to become AppleSeeders, or if it's just 'legacy'.
 
Yes, I know; but the point of having AppleSeeders was to allow non-developers access to betas. Now that Apple has made betas public, it gets loads of "non-developer" feedback, even if the public betas don't get every build.
Sure, but my point was that Appleseed and Dev builds are available a month or two in advance of public betas, so still useful.
 
so still useful.
Useful to whom? I was suggesting that it's not useful to Apple anymore. AppleSeeders used to be the only way for Apple to get non-dev feedback. Now, they get 14 metric f-tons of feedback from anyone.

I'll agree that it's useful for those who wants access to the early builds; but if they really want them, they can always pay the $99.
 
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