Appletalk connection Problems OS 10.5

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking' started by deystad, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. deystad macrumors newbie

    Nov 18, 2011

    Have an old proprietary unix based IBM workstation (Scitex Brisque 4.1 RIP for those familiar with it). It runs an Appletalk unix application (don't know if that is the correct term) allowing Macs to connect to it and mount volumes residing on it. Files can then be copied to it from the Mac.

    Everything was running great until we upgraded two of our Macs to OS 10.5 (one an Intel and one PowerPC, both at 10.5.8). Now when we try to connect to the workstation using "Connect to Server" we get a "Connection failed There was an error connecting to the server....".

    We do get the "Enter your username and password...." dialog box and enter the same user name and PW as usual, but then get the "Connection failed" message. It must do some communication with the workstation because it uses its name in the "Enter your username and password...." dialog box.

    The "Make AppleTalk Active box is checked with Configure: Automatically" in Network Preferences on both 10.5 Macs (as well as other 10.4 Mac).

    Does anyone know of something that might have changed in AppleTalk in 10.5 causing this problem?
  2. boris42 macrumors newbie

    Oct 17, 2007
    AppleTalk is gone. If you need access to old AppleTalk protocol, you need to keep an old(er) Mac running as a gateway between the RIP and the new(er) networking protocols.
  3. rughdyrngr macrumors newbie

    Dec 18, 2001
    Appletalk connection Problems OS 10.5

    10.5 will not send plain text passwords. Google how to change a plist file on the 10.5 machines to send passwords in plain text if encryption is not available on the server. I have not had to deal with this for several years, but was required to connect 10.5 to a Windows 2000 server running services for Macintosh and some pre Mac OS 10 systems.
  4. chrfr macrumors 604

    Jul 11, 2009
    AppleTalk still exists in 10.5, but disappeared in 10.6 and later. The poster above who mentioned plain text passwords is likely on the right track to solve this problem.
  5. deystad thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 18, 2011
    Further research

    Further research on Apple's forums seems to indicate read/write AppleTalk connectivity is gone in 10.5. One thread suggested to someone with a similar problem they should check to be sure Appletalk is checked both in the Network preferences as well as the Directory Access app in the Utilities folder.

    Opened Directory Access on both a 10.4 Mac and a 10.5 Mac and noticed that AppleTalk has disappeared from the Directory Access app in 10.5. That might be telling!

    We can do the work around suggested by boris42, although it is a pain in the butt.

    Might make a final attempt pursuing rughdyrngr response about plain text PWs.

    I'm surprised no one has a third party solution to this problem (if possible).

    (Just did a test connecting from a 10.5 Mac to a 10.4 Mac using the "Connect to Server" using an afp address,e.g., afp://192.168.x.x and it worked fine and I was able to copy a file from the 10.4 Mac to the 10.5 Mac - hmmm...)

    Thank you for taking the time to respond!

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