I know ideally we should all know how to handcode. But for some of us it just isn't possible. Like a lot of designers, I mainly did print work and ended up doing web site design on the side because I needed more business. I started using CyberStudio, then ended up using GoLive. I have still used GoLive up till this point actually. I have made every effort to learn all I can about hand coding and CSS over the last few years though. But I work 2 jobs, I can't afford to go back to school, and it will be a long time before I can progress past the point of needing to use an editor that has some form of WYSIWYG. I am learning what I can, but I have to work and make money too in the meantime. I really do like GoLive. I really mainly just use it to drag and drop DIV boxes where I want to make layouts. It's helped me learn to not use tables, though I am still learning the finer points of positioning. I make the layout, then go into code view and do most of the editing. I use a few other drag and drop functions, and then manually tweak them. The other reason I use GoLive is I really like it's site manager, and how it works with templates. I assume GoLive isn't going to keep functioning properly forever though. Since it's not updated, I am guessing it will 'break' eventually. I have tried Dreamweaver and find it to be a cluttered mess. Are there any other programs out there you guys can recommend? Something that has some of those features I like from GoLive, but that aren't as complicated as Dreamweaver? Thanks a lot.