Apps crash at Startup (OnSong)

Discussion in 'iOS 7' started by Sandman1969, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. Sandman1969 macrumors 6502a


    Nov 5, 2007
    I recently had issues on my iPhone 5 with apps crashing at startup. Actually it still does it with some apps. However, on there I am able to delete the app and go into App Store download again and it works again. The iPhone is still on 7.0.3, I think.

    Now my iPad 2 started doing the same thing. First I tried deleting app and restarting it. Still crashes at launch. It shows it running when you check running apps, but even clicking on it in the multi-task list it blinks on then back off.

    Then I tried closing all apps, resetting iPad... still fails.

    Then I tried to restore from an older backup, and it still fails.

    The killer for me is the main app I am wanting to use is Onsong which has about 2 years worth of set lists with notes attached.

    The frustrating thing is some apps work, but a good percentage don't now. It worked two weeks ago, and it was before I upgraded to latest release of iOS 7. I did that as well and am up to 7.0.4 as of last night, but that didn't fix the problem wither. It was crashing on 7.0.3 before and now 7.0.4.

    1) Anyone have any other suggestions on what to try?

    2) Is there any way to salvage my Onsong library using iExplorer or something similiar?

    3) Anything else?

    My next step is totally wipe the iPad and start from scratch, but will definitely lose all my song data (mainly the imbedded notes I am worried about as I have the txt files on DropBox) within OnSong. The other app data I don't really care about.

    Would it possibly help to wipe it as new and then do a restore to the last backup again? Or would it probably put me in the same place?

    Right now my only option for this Sunday's set is using my Wife's iPad 2 as the fresh install of OnSong works on hers. She is still on 7.0.3 on her iPad.
  2. Tyler23 macrumors 603


    Dec 2, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    I'm at work so I can't check, but have those apps been updated yet for iOS 7?

    Some apps work fine without being updated, some do not. Perhaps those haven't yet been updated to work well with iOS 7.
  3. Sandman1969 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Nov 5, 2007
    Yes I am pretty sure it has been. I have used the app for several services after upgrading to iOS7. Well that is in regard to OnSong. I also know some of the other games that I am not as worried about were updated for iOS7. The same thing was happening on my phone recently, the fix for it was to simply delete app and download again. This included a few Apple apps, like Pages, Maps as well as Facebook and quite a few that were definitely iOS 7 apps.

    I found on the OnSong website a way to backup the sql database, so may try a restore as new and start from scratch and copy the database back over. The games I am not worried about backup data.
  4. PNutts macrumors 601


    Jul 24, 2008
    Pacific Northwest, US
    It sounds like you have a good plan. I'd make a couple of backups :) and then restore as new then install just OnSong (without restoring the db) and see if it crashes. If it does then there's nothing you're going to be able to do and you can restore from your backup and wait for a fix. :( The Huffington Post app also constantly crashes.

    I assume when you mentioned resetting you removed all the apps from the recently used app list and then held down the sleep and home buttons? If not give that a try.

    Also, I'll get jumped on for suggesting this but people are not reporting huge issues with the current 7.1 beta.
  5. Sandman1969, Dec 4, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2013

    Sandman1969 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Nov 5, 2007
    If it was just onSong I would wager it is probably with it's database. I guess it still could. However, the number of apps that just started crashing on startup is sizable. And this is after installing 7.0.3 and them working. I noticed them crashing over the weekend and last night I noticed onSong crashing. I then upgraded to 7.0.4.

    onSong worked the Sunday before last (with 7.0.3) and I didn't add any songs to the library since then. I just started messing with it last night since I have to build this week's setlist.

    The odd thing is I have two versions of onSong. The older version, which when I upgraded didn't update and just installed a newer version, starts up and works fine. However, that one is an older version and other things don't work now like DropBox integration.

    Also, when I delete the app, I believe it should delete all the documents/data for the app. And reinstalling onSong should be basically a blank database. That doesn't work.

    I will try removing both versions and do a reinstall, but I have been running with that version like that for well over a year and the newer version updates without a problem.

    Also, since I had similiar problems with my iPhone. Well actually still do, but there whenever I run into an app problem I just delete and reinstall and it fixes it.

    Flow Free doesn't work on the iPad along with several others and this doesn't fix.

    And to answer your question, yeah I held both Power and Home button to reset as well as restore to an old backup.

    Thanks for the reply.
  6. Sandman1969 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Nov 5, 2007
    Well got OnSong and so far the few apps I have installed working.

    I tried a fresh install at scratch, then a restore of a backup no good. Copied the onsong app folder off the iPad via iExplorer.

    Did a fresh reinstall and setup as new. Onsong worked fine. Then closed it and copied in the application folder from my desktop over the existing and so far it looks like most of my files are on there with notes, which were the hardest thing to salvage. It is still processing the copy but looks like that may work.

    So not a corrupt database, but something with the IOS install config or something, especially since many apps were crashing that hadn't within a month ago.

    Anyway, much relieft. Lost about a month or so of song notes, much better than 2.5 - 3 years worth.

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