Apps Crashing Roxio Toast 17 Titanium

Roxy.music

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Why do apps crash? Roxio Toast 17 Titanium keeps on crashing when I try to burn a disc, it has happened four times today. :rolleyes: I am on Mojave, Mac Mini 2012.Any alternatives to Toast? I have only had a couple of other apps crashing I took one off here U Torrent because it kept on crashing.
, the other one I had problems with was Nord VPN some time ago but have had no problems with it for some time.
 

MSastre

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Toast 17 should not be crashing unless something else is wrong with your system. Toast is a great program for burning DVD/CDs. I've used it for many, many years. Currently running Toast 15 on a 2010 MP 5,3, and making plenty of DVDs, plus an old iMac running Toast 7 that still burns DVDs.
Download a copy of Etrecheck (free), run it, then check the report for conflicts. Big clue that something is wrong is having other apps crash as well. How much space is left on your system drive?
 
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Roxy.music

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Toast 17 should not be crashing unless something else is wrong with your system. Toast is a great program for burning DVD/CDs. I've used it for many, many years. Currently running Toast 15 on a 2010 MP 5,3, and making plenty of DVDs, plus an old iMac running Toast 7 that still burns DVDs.
Download a copy of Etrecheck (free), run it, then check the report for conflicts. Big clue that something is wrong is having other apps crash as well. How much space is left on your system drive?
I have loads of space on my drive only using 39gb of a 512gb drive.
I had Toast 16 that kept on crashing but not as much as this every time a try to record a CD it crashes. I got the 17 because of it mentioned about not supporting 32 bit. Wow, I am surprised 7 is still working. Toast is the only one crashing at present.
 

naerct

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Why do apps crash? Roxio Toast 17 Titanium keeps on crashing when I try to burn a disc, it has happened four times today. :rolleyes: I am on Mojave, Mac Mini 2012.Any alternatives to Toast? I have only had a couple of other apps crashing I took one off here U Torrent because it kept on crashing.
, the other one I had problems with was Nord VPN some time ago but have had no problems with it for some time.
I agree with what's been offered as a remedy. I am running Toast 15 in Mojave, and all is well on my 2009 cMP. While not as comprehensive as Toast, Disk Utility can take care of normal writing tasks, just like it always has. I would suggest you start looking at your crash reports. I have had problems with some of the Toast applets not working correctly after aging a bit, but never an uncorrectable situation. The first thing I would do is to delete Toast as completely as possible and reinstall it. If it crashes, go to the Console and find out why. It may just be a resources issue, despite how slow a DVD burner is.

While we're on the subject of disk burning, I'm wondering if "burners" would report back on failing media, M-Discs, and other pertinent issues. I have an external LG Blu-ray burner that has M-Disc capabilities (<$150 8 years ago) Besides the M-Disc media, I have used almost every brand in most every format. In the last 5+ years, I have used only the top line Verbatim disks. However, many of them now have problems, especially the BR disks. But it was random as other disks made at a similar time with the same media are not damaged. All of them were stored properly in the same place. ???? As for the longevity of the M-Discs, I have not yet seen a problem, and they are my disk of choice for archival use.
As for Toast, I got the add-on Video burner software as I have had in the past. It allows you to create video disks. I have done a bunch of stop action animation over the years, and wanted a way to be able to distribute hard copies. This Toast add-on does that very well, and will even burn a BR quality disk onto a twenty-nine cent DVD. It is too short for most movies, but perfect for my video animations. Now that online can handle the HD quality formats, it's rare that I make one today.
I'd love to hear from others about their current burning standards, disk choices, etc.
 

Roxy.music

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I agree with what's been offered as a remedy. I am running Toast 15 in Mojave, and all is well on my 2009 cMP. While not as comprehensive as Toast, Disk Utility can take care of normal writing tasks, just like it always has. I would suggest you start looking at your crash reports. I have had problems with some of the Toast applets not working correctly after aging a bit, but never an uncorrectable situation. The first thing I would do is to delete Toast as completely as possible and reinstall it. If it crashes, go to the Console and find out why. It may just be a resources issue, despite how slow a DVD burner is.

While we're on the subject of disk burning, I'm wondering if "burners" would report back on failing media, M-Discs, and other pertinent issues. I have an external LG Blu-ray burner that has M-Disc capabilities (<$150 8 years ago) Besides the M-Disc media, I have used almost every brand in most every format. In the last 5+ years, I have used only the top line Verbatim disks. However, many of them now have problems, especially the BR disks. But it was random as other disks made at a similar time with the same media are not damaged. All of them were stored properly in the same place. ???? As for the longevity of the M-Discs, I have not yet seen a problem, and they are my disk of choice for archival use.
As for Toast, I got the add-on Video burner software as I have had in the past. It allows you to create video disks. I have done a bunch of stop action animation over the years, and wanted a way to be able to distribute hard copies. This Toast add-on does that very well, and will even burn a BR quality disk onto a twenty-nine cent DVD. It is too short for most movies, but perfect for my video animations. Now that online can handle the HD quality formats, it's rare that I make one today.
I'd love to hear from others about their current burning standards, disk choices, etc.
I tried that app that he had recommended I did,t find it helpful all it did was try and sell me another app for 15 pounds? I t is working now it could be to do with the app that asks you where you want the disk to open to I never had any problems with it before I don,t know how it changed where I wanted to open it to :rolleyes:
No problem with my Mac it is working fine plus I have CleanMyMacx:)i haven,t got much on here anyway.
That,s what I would have done. Off course we want to be around to find out if they last as long as they say they .do.I use Maxwell Disks I think they are the cheaper ones 12 for 100 very few failed. I do like Toast though it is the only thing for a Mac:). Plus the fact you can drag all the tracks they came in the same order .unlike over burners.
 
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naerct

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I tried that app that he had recommended I did,t find it helpful all it did was try and sell me another app for 15 pounds? I t is working now it could be to do with the app that asks you where you want the disk to open to I never had any problems with it before I don,t know how it changed where I wanted to open it to :rolleyes:
No problem with my Mac it is working fine plus I have CleanMyMacx:)i haven,t got much on here anyway.
That,s what I would have done. Off course we want to be around to find out if they last as long as they say they .do.I use Maxwell Disks I think they are the cheaper ones 12 for 100 very few failed. I do like Toast though it is the only thing for a Mac:). Plus the fact you can drag all the tracks they came in the same order .unlike over burners.
I checked out Etrecheck, and the basic, free version works fine. You only need to pay $ if you want the extra features. I haven't investigated fully, but I am going to consider this. I will probably want the extra features. Note: There is the App Store version, and the Pro version available at the web site. The price for the upgraded Pro is $18, but is also a free download from the site without the extras. I believe they had to add the Pro version due to Apple regulations with certain features.
So, if you have already reinstalled Toast, and the crashes are still happening, and consult the Console for perps. You may have to reinstall (updated) Mojave, as there may just be a corrupted system file, or the like. It might also be caused by an overwrought session with your cleaner! This is why, beginning with Catalina, that the OS has a separate Read Only folder for the System files. I had to do that recently for some reason, and it worked perfectly, giving me back a complete update of the OS without changing my settings. Google it (https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/reinstall-macos-mchlp1599/mac), and do the upgrade if reinstalling Toast doesn't work. (after checking for any updates to Toast)
 

MSastre

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I tried that app that he had recommended I did,t find it helpful all it did was try and sell me another app for 15 pounds? I t is working now it could be to do with the app that asks you where you want the disk to open to I never had any problems with it before I don,t know how it changed where I wanted to open it to :rolleyes:
No problem with my Mac it is working fine plus I have CleanMyMacx:)i haven,t got much on here anyway.
That,s what I would have done. Off course we want to be around to find out if they last as long as they say they .do.I use Maxwell Disks I think they are the cheaper ones 12 for 100 very few failed. I do like Toast though it is the only thing for a Mac:). Plus the fact you can drag all the tracks they came in the same order .unlike over burners.
CleanMyMac is a known culprit in causing problems with many professional programs such as FCP X. Check the FCP X forum and you will see many instances of that happening.
 
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naerct

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CleanMyMac is a known culprit in causing problems with many professional programs such as FCP X. Check the FCP X forum and you will see many instances of tat happening.
I thought that was the case as well, but it appears from my searches that CleanMyMacX is a much better product, without all the bad code. I'm not interested, so won't bother with a deeper look, but hopefully this may be solved by an informed forum member who uses the new app.
 

Roxy.music

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CleanMyMac is a known culprit in causing problems with many professional programs such as FCP X. Check the FCP X forum and you will see many instances of that happening.
CleanMyMac is a known culprit in causing problems with many professional programs such as FCP X. Check the FCP X forum and you will see many instances of that happening.
I disagree it works fine for me, why do a lot of Apple sites recommend it?I don,t use any
professional programs I only use it for basic stuff.
 

Roxy.music

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I checked out Etrecheck, and the basic, free version works fine. You only need to pay $ if you want the extra features. I haven't investigated fully, but I am going to consider this. I will probably want the extra features. Note: There is the App Store version, and the Pro version available at the web site. The price for the upgraded Pro is $18, but is also a free download from the site without the extras. I believe they had to add the Pro version due to Apple regulations with certain features.
So, if you have already reinstalled Toast, and the crashes are still happening, and consult the Console for perps. You may have to reinstall (updated) Mojave, as there may just be a corrupted system file, or the like. It might also be caused by an overwrought session with your cleaner! This is why, beginning with Catalina, that the OS has a separate Read-Only folder for the System files. I had to do that recently for some reason, and it worked perfectly, giving me back a complete update of the OS without changing my settings. Google it (https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/reinstall-macos-mchlp1599/mac), and do the upgrade if reinstalling Toast doesn't work. (after checking for any updates to Toast)
It did not say anything about my Toast or if there were any other problems on my system, not that there is any apart from toast crashing :(There is no way to print the massive crash report I get when Toast crashes I send it to Apple, I haven,t taken it off here, but it crashed again so will take it off and reinstall it. Toast did ask me to upgrade to the newer 18. I din,t understand how people are still using old versions of Toast without any problems.:Di very rarely use the cleaner. Toast does not show a check for updates. Thanks for your help I will do that.:)
 

naerct

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I disagree it works fine for me, why do a lot of Apple sites recommend it?I don,t use any
professional programs I only use it for basic stuff.
As I said, you have the new acceptable version. The older software was plastered in ads that looked like recommendations, but the software had it's own malware. This is not your issue.
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It did not say anything about my Toast or if there were any other problems on my system, not that there is any apart from toast crashing :(There is no way to print the massive crash report I get when Toast crashes I send it to Apple, I haven,t taken it off here, but it crashed again so will take it off and reinstall it. Toast did ask me to upgrade to the newer 18. I din,t understand how people are still using old versions of Toast without any problems.:Di very rarely use the cleaner. Toast does not show a check for updates. Thanks for your help I will do that.:)
You can always print to pdf, so it takes a little space, not a lot of paper. Every macOS has the pdf choices in the print command. You can even put a password on them with 128bit encryption. Print/PDF/save as PDF.
Definitely reinstall Toast, but if that doesn't work, do the OS reinstall trick described in a previous post.
 
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Roxy.music

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CleanMyMac is a known culprit in causing problems with many professional programs such as FCP X. Check the FCP X forum and you will see many instances of that happening.
Anything this guy recommends is good by me :)I know that MAC KEEPER is bad, I don,t understand why anyone would want to use it.
This guy is good.:)
 

Roxy.music

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I got it sorted I tried putting an older version of Toast on here but that did not work and other weird stuff was going on. I could not put the newer version of Toast on there because I lost the licence key So I used a time machine back up from January all is working fine now I only use it for recording CD,s. Meanwhile, I went to my T5 SSD Windows and downloaded Nero 2018 on Piretybay and was surprised that it all worked well with the key in it and I could even update it.:) It is a shame that Nero does,t work with a Mac. It has a lot more stuff than Toast and it is better.:)
 

naerct

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I got it sorted I tried putting an older version of Toast on here but that did not work and other weird stuff was going on. I could not put the newer version of Toast on there because I lost the licence key So I used a time machine back up from January all is working fine now I only use it for recording CD,s. Meanwhile, I went to my T5 SSD Windows and downloaded Nero 2018 on Piretybay and was surprised that it all worked well with the key in it and I could even update it.:) It is a shame that Nero does,t work with a Mac. It has a lot more stuff than Toast and it is better.:)
I‘m glad you finally got Toast working. I used Nero over a decade ago, but pretty much tried them all when I used Windows. When I switched to Mac in 2009, I never even bought burner software, but used Disk Utility which had all the basic operations. When I got a BLU-ray burner, mostly for archiving imagery, I needed advanced features that the OS software didn’t have. Have you used the M-disks? I also have used the 100GB BR disks so I can fit an entire boot clone on a disk. They aren’t cheap, but a lot less than a 128GB USB drive, and more permanent. I also think that Toast had the most features, but I don’t remember. What I do know is that with an optional package, Toast lets you author video disks, and had all the visuals, you could print out with covers for DVDs and BRs, etc. I was doing a lot of photo animation (mostly time lapse) and the BR quality is so much better than DVD or CD. Those 2 hour BR blanks were expensive. This Toast feature actually allow you to use a 29 cent DVD-R that will give BR quality with a much shorter duration, perfect for my 15 minute animations. Optical just isn’t popular anymore, especially for music or films, as all that stuff streams today. It is really too slow to use as part of a workflow with computers anymore. I just took the SuperDrive out of my MBP 2012 and replaced it with a second 500GB SSD. I’ll keep the external BR burner which plays through anything that will take a USB3 as I have a large movie and music collection on disk.