Apps refreshing in the background with background app refresh turned off

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by utahman130, Oct 20, 2015.

  1. Mascots macrumors 65816

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    "In the background" isn't limited to background refresh.

    Background refresh allows apps to reach out when they're inactive to retrieve information prior to your usage of them. However, apps can remain in the background for various other reasons including, but not limited to:
    • Completion of downloading or uploading data from an active session
    • Updating Widgets
    • Playing Audio (or, like Facebook, playing video audio)
    • Completing other tasks before being suspended
    • Actively maintaining location presence
    There's a few other reasons applications can run in the background, most of which are limited by time or split into intervals, delayed until the next BGR (if enabled), or integrated into system services (like GPS). They'll still report their time on the battery plane.
     
  2. utahman130 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Never play audio when I am not looking at tweetbot or tumblr, I do not have any widgets active in NC for tweetbot or tumblr, don't upload videos to tumblr or tweetbot, just small <2 MB photos and text posts.
     
  3. Mascots macrumors 65816

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    I'm not attempting to debug your situation because it can be a myriad of things from improper usage of video/audio streaming on an app (à la Facebook), to your usage. I'm just telling your that "in the background" =/= "background refresh". It's just too ambiguous to diagnose, for example, for all I know, you can be flipping back and forth between Tumblr and Tweetbot frequently, which is telling iOS to keep them both alive in the background longer than would normally be expected (giving you 1min active TB and 1min inactive Tbr, for example).

    The only way to guarantee apps can't use background processing is to remove them from the multitasking plane when you're done with them.

    But ideally, unless you notice any sort of massive performance hits or battery drain, it's a nonissue.
     
  4. utahman130 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I've been noticing a huge battery drain, which is why I was wondering. Might try a restore if it doesn't get better.
     
  5. Mascots macrumors 65816

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    Ah! Details help ;) I'd just try to reinstall the apps because that could save you some trouble.

    I just checked and noticed that the background usage by Tumblr on my phone is pretty high in comparison to other apps, so that may be a theme there.
     
  6. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    I just close apps when I'm done with them. Problem solved.
     
  7. Moneoa macrumors member

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    Facebook has admitted their app stays active in the background for hours when you hit the home button. They just updated their apps today and the issue has stopped.

    Google Facebook battery drain. It's all Facebook baby
     
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  9. Moneoa macrumors member

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    I can confirm with the new update it no longer runs in the background when refresh is disabled. For now lol
     
  10. Wise87 macrumors 6502

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    Has anyone else confirmed that it no longer runs in the background?
     
  11. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Well, with or without background refresh enabled, it can run in the background like pretty much other apps can, it's just that it shouldn't be running in the background longer than a few minutes here and there after use (and with background refresh enabled it can also run in the background for a few minutes at a few different times during the day as well even if the app wasn't used right before that).
     
  12. Moneoa, Oct 23, 2015
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    Moneoa macrumors member

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    When I say it does not run in the background anymore, what I mean is you should no longer see on screen time at 15 minutes and background time as 2-3 hours on top of the 15 with app refresh turned off.

    The actual bug that let the app continue to run for hours and hours with that option to running the background turned off has been fixed

    I have a technical background so I don't need to have someone explain what I am talking about back to me. I know what I am speaking
     
  13. maflynn Moderator

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    [MOD NOTE]
    Enough with the arguing. Please stay on topic.
     

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