Are animation effects "choppier" in Leopard than in Tiger?

Are animation effects "choppier" in Leopard than in Tiger?

  • Yes, animations were smoother in Tiger

    Votes: 110 66.7%
  • No, animations are just as smooth as they were in Tiger, if not smoother

    Votes: 55 33.3%

  • Total voters
    165

ktrix

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 26, 2007
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There are a few threads on here about poor performance on animation effects in Leopard. Some users, myself included, have reported that Spaces, Stacks, and even the Genie Effect all appear somewhat "choppy" or at least not as smooth as in Tiger. The "choppiness" can be observed most clearly when one holds down the shift key before triggering an animation (e.g., before clicking on a stack). Give it a try, then vote.

Are the animations "choppier" in Leopard than in Tiger?
 

mrfrosty

macrumors 6502a
Oct 1, 2005
500
21
Its strange ....mine is choppy too. But other graphical stuff is fine....plonk an app on each of 4 spaces and move between them with (ctrl)+arrow and it's like lightning
 

pjarvi

macrumors 65816
Jan 11, 2006
1,287
176
Round Lake, IL
The only thing that's choppy for me is when I switch spaces and have iTunes playing music with the visualizer on. I think a lot of people were judging the performance of the system before waiting for Time Machine and Spotlight Indexing to complete their first runs.

If other MacBook users are experiencing choppiness, I can only assume that I don't have the same problems due to the following:

-Did an Erase & Install
-Have 2GB RAM
-Have 7200RPM Hard Drive with 16MB Cache
-Don't use any major software myself, just EyeTV and Turbo.264

My Stacks spring up smooth as silk, and Spaces is only choppy when something graphically intensive is running, such as the visualizer in iTunes.
 

ktrix

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 26, 2007
20
0
Its strange ....mine is choppy too. But other graphical stuff is fine....plonk an app on each of 4 spaces and move between them with (ctrl)+arrow and it's like lightning
I've noticed the same thing on my machine. The choppiness only seems to occur when Leopard resizes a 'window,' which happens with Stacks, Expose, Spaces, etc.

I think a lot of people were judging the performance of the system before waiting for Time Machine and Spotlight Indexing to complete their first runs.
It's something else, not Time Machine or Spotlight. Believe me. In my case, Time Machine is off and Spotlight didn't need to reindex my drive after the upgrade.

So, it seems that not all MacBook users have this problem. Do all MacBooks have the same video hardware? Here's what System Profiler tells me about my computer:

Chipset Model: GMA 950
Type: Display
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Total): 64 MB of shared system memory
Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x27a2
Revision ID: 0x0003

For other MacBook users without a problem, do you have the same hardware? Same Revision ID (if that means what I assume it does)?
 

00hkelly

macrumors 6502
Nov 15, 2006
259
0
leopard is definitely faster on my macbook pro. the only time something might be a little bit choppy may would be the first time i use it after a cold start up. other than that its smoother than a very greasy thing thats been extra greased up to be super slick! :D
 

y0zza

macrumors regular
Mar 10, 2005
118
18
UK
Do the Stacks animations stutter when you use a folder with lots of items? (100+)

My Stacks animations are smooth for the Fan. For the Grid, it's smooth when there are only a few items (less than 30, say).

After dumping my Applications on to the dock with 181 items, there is a noticeable stutter at the point in the animation when the grey background fades/pops in. This also happens when done in slow motion (shift + click).

With only a few items, the Grid view becomes smooth, although I haven't tried to determine at what number of items it ceases to be smooth.

My specs are as below in my signature. I would expect my machine to be able to handle it relatively OK if you guys with MacBooks are reporting smooth animations (unless that's just with a few items in the folder).

Anyone else notice this behaviour? For those who say theirs is smooth, how many items do you have in the Grid view?
 

seanneko

macrumors member
Sep 2, 2007
86
0
I would say that overall (not just animations), Leopard is slower than Tiger.

Application launch time, system bootup, etc, all takes longer. I have no idea why so many reviewers were claiming that Leopard is "much faster" - how much did Apple pay them to say that?
 

psychofreak

Retired
May 16, 2006
9,064
4
London
Leopard and its animations are way faster on my MB C2D. Maybe thats because I spend time in Pages and Safari (not much else) and they're both optimized for 10.5 :)

The Airport menubar icon no longer hangs on click...
 

flopticalcube

macrumors G4
I would say that overall (not just animations), Leopard is slower than Tiger.

Application launch time, system bootup, etc, all takes longer. I have no idea why so many reviewers were claiming that Leopard is "much faster" - how much did Apple pay them to say that?
that might only be your personal experience. I find everything but animations to be much faster in Leopard. Most apps start with one bounce on both my MacBook and mini. Spotlight is instantaneous.
 

seanneko

macrumors member
Sep 2, 2007
86
0
that might only be your personal experience. I find everything but animations to be much faster in Leopard. Most apps start with one bounce on both my MacBook and mini. Spotlight is instantaneous.
Are you comparing a fresh Leopard install to a fresh Tiger install, or a fresh Leopard install to a 3 year old bloated Tiger install?

The only apps that I really use are Firefox and Thunderbird which both take about 5 bounces to open. Finder and Spotlight are pretty instantaneous.
 

00hkelly

macrumors 6502
Nov 15, 2006
259
0
I would say that overall (not just animations), Leopard is slower than Tiger.

Application launch time, system bootup, etc, all takes longer. I have no idea why so many reviewers were claiming that Leopard is "much faster" - how much did Apple pay them to say that?
I would certainly disagree. Boot, login launching apps are all noticeably faster for me in leopard.

What system are you on?

The Airport menubar icon no longer hangs on click...
this used to drive me nuts in Tiger, i felt physically relieved when i learned of this feature.
 

Snarf

macrumors newbie
Feb 29, 2004
24
0
Upstate New York
On my Mac Pro with an x1900xt everything is fine in Leopard...except expose. I wouldn't call it choppy, but it's much less smooth than it was in Tiger. I find it strange that it's only noticeable when I expose all windows.
Even more perplexing, everything runs just great on my MacBook.
 

flopticalcube

macrumors G4
On my Mac Pro with an x1900xt everything is fine in Leopard...except expose. I wouldn't call it choppy, but it's much less smooth than it was in Tiger. I find it strange that it's only noticeable when I expose all windows.
Even more perplexing, everything runs just great on my MacBook.
My mini and MacBook suffer the same fate. The mini is identical in spec to the MacBook save for a slower CPU and hardrive and yet animations are fine on it but choppy on the MacBook. :confused:
 

Alloye

macrumors 6502a
Apr 11, 2007
657
0
Rocklin, CA
I would say that overall (not just animations), Leopard is slower than Tiger.

Application launch time, system bootup, etc, all takes longer. I have no idea why so many reviewers were claiming that Leopard is "much faster" - how much did Apple pay them to say that?
PPC or Intel?

On every Intel system I've tried, Leopard boots quicker, launches applications faster, and is generally more responsive than Tiger.
 

mike12806

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2007
359
0
Boston, MA
I would say that overall (not just animations), Leopard is slower than Tiger.

Application launch time, system bootup, etc, all takes longer. I have no idea why so many reviewers were claiming that Leopard is "much faster" - how much did Apple pay them to say that?
Yeah Apple's reputation has been tarnished so badly in the past year it has now resorted to paying people to hype it's OS's....creative sarcasm :rolleyes: On a more serious note.....I am not seeing any issues on my imac with 2.5 gigs ram and a 2.16 core 2 duo, itunes, safari, all open in "one bounce" on the dock and are ready to go, and no issues with stacks, expose, spaces. This must be an issue with the integrated graphics as I can see "Seanneko" has a macbook....:cool:
 

Jack Dangers

macrumors regular
Oct 29, 2007
164
0
I've just noticed the longer I use it, the better it gets.:confused:

as of this evening expose and genie animations are much better...
 

xXriderXx7

macrumors 6502a
Jul 6, 2007
715
0
Lake Elsinore, California
One thing that I have noticed that I am really disappointed with is expose while watching a iTunes TV show. On Tiger, expose while watching was flawless and smooth, in leopard, it is very choppy and glitchy.
 

Chaszmyr

macrumors 601
Aug 9, 2002
4,263
76
On my Mac Pro, I think the animations might have been a little smoother in Tiger, but they are still plenty smooth in Leopard.
 

solvs

macrumors 603
Jun 25, 2002
5,684
1
LaLaLand, CA
how much did Apple pay them to say that?
Nothing. How much did Microsoft pay you? :rolleyes: Faster for me. Has been since the early betas. I'm assuming the choppiness will go away for most users when the drivers are improved, but I haven't seen it myself. G4s, G5s, Intels. Clean Installs, Upgrades, and Archive and Installs.
 
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