Are Fusion and Parallels dead with M1?

[mortenjensen]

Hi all,
As one dependent on a Fusion setup with Windows, I would really like to know, if there is any chance that Fusion or Parallels will be able to work around the M1 structure and have their system up and running under Rosetta 2.0.
Any chance?
Morten

 

[mortenjensen]

Just found this, great, there is still hope 🙂 https://www.parallels.com/blogs/parallels-desktop-apple-silicon-mac/

 

[maflynn]

Just found this, great, there is still hope 🙂 https://www.parallels.com/blogs/parallels-desktop-apple-silicon-mac/

That hope may be short lived, as Rosetta 2 is not intended (AFAIK) as a permanent solution. Plus Rosetta is an emulation and you're running a virtualized environment on top of that. Performance may not be all that good.

The last time Apple switched platforms, its rosetta emulation was decommissioned at a point in time and you couldn't run the old apps. You risk the same thing occuring

 

[venom600]

A couple of things to unpack here. Rosetta 2 does not allow virtual machines at all. So look at what that post from Parallels says... or rather, what it doesn't say. There's no mention of x86 or Windows anywhere (except when they talk about Microsoft on ARM). All they said is that a version of Parallels will run on M1. It does not say that it will run x86 operating systems or that it will run Windows. They go out of their way to say that Apple showed Parallels running Linux... which makes sense because Linux can run natively on ARM. Until they come out and say in explicit language that they have implemented an emulation solution of their own like Rosetta, x86 is off the table. We need a new VirtualPC (the PC emulator from PPC days).

 

[hugodrax]

buy the tools that fit the needs. You would be a fool buying an M1 cpu mac if you need x86 VMs. Go and buy one of the Intel versions.

 

[SigEp265]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this but I have an additional question. Is it going to be possible to run a Parallels Mojave VM on the M1 chip ? I have some legacy (and expensive) software that will be hard to part with.

 

[The_Interloper]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this but I have an additional question. Is it going to be possible to run a Parallels Mojave VM on the M1 chip ? I have some legacy (and expensive) software that will be hard to part with.

Parallels will only be able to run ARM OS's. Mojave is not designed for ARM, so it won't work.

 

[Imixmuan]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this but I have an additional question. Is it going to be possible to run a Parallels Mojave VM on the M1 chip ? I have some legacy (and expensive) software that will be hard to part with.

Believe it or not there is a whole forum here devoted to people who are STILL using PowerPC macs, 14 years after the Intel transition, for many of the same reasons you mention above. Your computer is as fast as the day you bought it the software will still run on it as well as it did 14 years from now. Maybe you are a one computer guy and that's cool, but you can always hold onto that Intel mac until you come up with another solution, or until you move on. Steve Jobs when he was at NeXT famously said that any computing platform will peak in 5 years and be dead in ten. Ok, Apple was a little slow with the ARM transition but we've been hearing these ARM rumors for years, right? M1 is the death of Intel on mac, maybe Intel forever, unless they or AMD can come up with a viable competitor. Which is frankly kinda hard to imagine.

 

[SigEp265]

Believe it or not there is a whole forum here devoted to people who are STILL using PowerPC macs, 14 years after the Intel transition, for many of the same reasons you mention above. Your computer is as fast as the day you bought it the software will still run on it as well as it did 14 years from now. Maybe you are a one computer guy and that's cool, but you can always hold onto that Intel mac until you come up with another solution, or until you move on. Steve Jobs when he was at NeXT famously said that any computing platform will peak in 5 years and be dead in ten. Ok, Apple was a little slow with the ARM transition but we've been hearing these ARM rumors for years, right? M1 is the death of Intel on mac, maybe Intel forever, unless they or AMD can come up with a viable competitor. Which is frankly kinda hard to imagine.

I'm mainly holding on to Adobe CS6 suite for dear life lol. I refuse to subscribe to CC. That being said I have been trying to use the Affinity software more. One day their suite will surpass adobe (hopefully) lol

And no I am definitely not a one computer guy.