I hope not as I would otherwise switch to a different company the Pro is the best of both worlds having the feature while still keeping the price at a good level(for apple) and having the option to customize by changing the ram or harddrive.
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Are MacBook Pro users jealous?
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I hope not as I would otherwise switch to a different company the Pro is the best of both worlds having the feature while still keeping the price at a good level(for apple) and having the option to customize by changing the ram or harddrive.
I doubt it. There's certainly a market for the 13" Pro. I just see them upgrading the display to a higher resolution (or a "retina" display) and adding a discrete gpu. The 13" Pro is a completely different beast than the air.
Yes they are jealous. As a matter of fact. MBP users are by nature a jealous lot. Suspicious also, and tend to like bend the wrist a bit (if you know what I mean 
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They surreptitiously, eye others possessions, and in their aloneness (they are almost always alone), silently plan their crime: to rob and acquire that which they do not have.
Lock your doors, and watch you children.
God bless.
).They surreptitiously, eye others possessions, and in their aloneness (they are almost always alone), silently plan their crime: to rob and acquire that which they do not have.
Lock your doors, and watch you children.
God bless.
Got an 11" MBA and upgraded the SSD to 480GB. Sold my early 2011 MBP for a high cash price on Craig's List because I noticed that the rumors are predicting an upcoming release of a 15" THIN MBP-No Optical Drive and who knows what else. A thin 15" or even 17" Air style MBP would be quite cool so I think I'll save the federal reserve notes and see what Apple has up their sleeve.
Apple has no interest in allowing people to customize their machines, they certainly haven't made it easy. Just wish they'd offer an 8GB option for the Air.
That - and the 13" MBP is so dead. Optical drives are not in Apple's future either, they've moved on to the App Store. The next gen of Pros will be 15/17" ultrathins I suspect, although they might retain a HDD for those with higher storage needs (like the iMac, SSD/HDD combos).
The rest of the pro line has discrete GPU's, a proper resolution, powerful quad core CPU's. In my opinion--if Apple keeps the 13" MBP it is going to be something that fills the void of the white macbook, albeit at a higher price.
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I own a 13" MBP and am not jealous at all, actually I returned my 13" MBA. If its display looked as good as the MBP's things would have been different though.
So not jealous, just pissed that the MBA's cheap screen keeps me from enjoying this fine machine.
I own a 13" MBP and am not jealous at all, actually I returned my 13" MBA. If its display looked as good as the MBP's things would have been different though.
So not jealous, just pissed that the MBA's cheap screen keeps me from enjoying this fine machine.
15" and 17" aim for a completely different demographic.
the 13" crowd might be raising an eyebrow though. Specs wise you're essentially getting double the normal use performance for smaller storage and lower benchmark scores.... and half the weight+higher resolution for lower overall quality screen.
the 13" crowd might be raising an eyebrow though. Specs wise you're essentially getting double the normal use performance for smaller storage and lower benchmark scores.... and half the weight+higher resolution for lower overall quality screen.
I dont see as the air as batter than the 13in in anything but the display resolution.
The 13in MBP has better:
CPU
FW800
Optical drive
storage size
max RAM
HD iSight
$100 less
the 13in Air has:
Resolution
SSD speed
You can add a much bigger, much faster SSD to the MBP, you can even add a 2nd HDD if you would like. And no need to carry an external HDD, external DVD drive, and a network adapter when you travel. It's all just in one unit.
I wouldn't be surprised if you add the weight of a 320GB external HDD, the Apple Optical drive, and the NIC adapter to the air its actually heavier than the 13in MBP. To 'save weight" you end up carrying more weight, and spending more money just to have the same functionality.
The 13in MBP has better:
CPU
FW800
Optical drive
storage size
max RAM
HD iSight
$100 less
the 13in Air has:
Resolution
SSD speed
You can add a much bigger, much faster SSD to the MBP, you can even add a 2nd HDD if you would like. And no need to carry an external HDD, external DVD drive, and a network adapter when you travel. It's all just in one unit.
I wouldn't be surprised if you add the weight of a 320GB external HDD, the Apple Optical drive, and the NIC adapter to the air its actually heavier than the 13in MBP. To 'save weight" you end up carrying more weight, and spending more money just to have the same functionality.
I'm not certain how many travelling professionals would be carrying around an external DVD drive. Almost all places have wireless so that negates the need for a wired adapter.
It might be heavier if people decided to travel with useless crap that they don't need.
Instead of messing around with the forum code, I'm just going to write everything out without the quotes, colors, blah blah blah.
In response to your response of my response of your original post:
CPU - The fans will kick on--I have yet to have any thermal throttling issues. It might get warm--but that is to be expected.
Firewire 800: You have me there--until Thunderbolt Adapters come out for it, there is no Firewire connectivity.
Optical Drive: There are other solutions to the optical drive problem. Remote Disk is the first thing that came to mind. It worked wonderfully when I wanted to install a friend's copy of iWork.
Storage - SSD vs HDD: I find myself enjoying how much quicker I get through batch commands with CS5 and Lightroom. My Air also has my music library hooked up to it. I have all of my important files. All stored on a 128 GB drive. Maybe if you have 2 months worth of music it might be an issue. I also don't have to worry about mechanical errors with an SSD. In the past month, 4 people I know have had HDD failures.
Max Ram: Yes, you can upgrade your own for 100, but that's still 100+ for the price.
Footprint: I should have been more specific--it has less volume. That matters to me when I want to 1 bag travel.
I think the Air is favored more by people who are using it as a second computer. I have my PC setup, a media center computer, and my Air now.
My view of the Pro 13" is that it favors in line for people who are using it as a main computer.
I still think the 13" needs some revamp. It is just inconsistent with the pro line of computers. No discrete graphics, a lower resolution desktop are a definite turnoff to me. I would be interested to see statistics at the end of the year showing sales across the board for Apple Laptops. To me, the 13" Pro seems to be one of the weakest models in Apple's Line.
In response to your response of my response of your original post:
CPU - The fans will kick on--I have yet to have any thermal throttling issues. It might get warm--but that is to be expected.
Firewire 800: You have me there--until Thunderbolt Adapters come out for it, there is no Firewire connectivity.
Optical Drive: There are other solutions to the optical drive problem. Remote Disk is the first thing that came to mind. It worked wonderfully when I wanted to install a friend's copy of iWork.
Storage - SSD vs HDD: I find myself enjoying how much quicker I get through batch commands with CS5 and Lightroom. My Air also has my music library hooked up to it. I have all of my important files. All stored on a 128 GB drive. Maybe if you have 2 months worth of music it might be an issue. I also don't have to worry about mechanical errors with an SSD. In the past month, 4 people I know have had HDD failures.
Max Ram: Yes, you can upgrade your own for 100, but that's still 100+ for the price.
Footprint: I should have been more specific--it has less volume. That matters to me when I want to 1 bag travel.
I think the Air is favored more by people who are using it as a second computer. I have my PC setup, a media center computer, and my Air now.
My view of the Pro 13" is that it favors in line for people who are using it as a main computer.
I still think the 13" needs some revamp. It is just inconsistent with the pro line of computers. No discrete graphics, a lower resolution desktop are a definite turnoff to me. I would be interested to see statistics at the end of the year showing sales across the board for Apple Laptops. To me, the 13" Pro seems to be one of the weakest models in Apple's Line.
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