Have you used LTE on a mobile device? Because real world experience would suggest you are incorrect.
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Are most people really going to be happy with an LTE iPhone?
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Have you used LTE on a mobile device? Because real world experience would suggest you are incorrect.
Ill take that bet since i just renewed my contract with the galaxy s3 guaranteeing unl data for the next two years... Hardly the very near future
It all depends on what you're using data for.
If one is simply visiting websites or checking their email, they shouldn't use any more data with LTE than they do with 3G. Sure, the page will load quicker, but the bulk of the time is still spent reading the page.
Conversely, if that person uses the bulk of their data streaming audio or video or downloading files, then, yes, they will use more data with 4G.
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Right. So you don't think they can change the terms at any time regardless of what your contract says.... they can, have, and will.
LTE will blow everyone's mind on the iPhone, so no. Watching YouTube HD with no buffering = Amazing.
I've been using LTE on a mobile device for more than a year, and I don't see my data usage increasing 10x more doing the same tasks with my 3G mobile devices. My LTE data usage has increased more because of streaming apps like Hulu+, Netflix, etc..., but that's not what Applejuiced said in his post.
Running up large data amounts and having to pay overages watching YouTube HD with no buffering = Not Amazing
It may not be unlimited but it will be much more usable. Taking five minutes to watch a 60 second youtube video because it's constantly buffering is annoying. Just because you have the speed of LTE does not mean you need to watch HD Netflix just because you can. It's still a finite resource that's being used more than ever. Tiered data is here and it's not going away. We are just going to have to get used it whether we like it or not.
This is the case with Verizon and Sprint. On AT&T you could always talk and surf the web at the same time over 3G.
If I get the 5, which I probably will, I'm most likely going to disable LTE unless I'm in an area where AT&T has incompetent management of their HSPA+ network, like Midtown Manhattan, and then I will turn LTE on. I'm looking forward to having a much longer battery life on an LTE iPhone without LTE running. At home, and most places I go, HSPA+ is several times faster than I need as it is.
It also doesn't translate to more data use, just getting the data you want faster.
It also doesn't translate to more data use, just getting the data you want faster.
True but the "problem" is that when some videos services detect a fast enough connection they start giving you higher definition video. That 60 second video starts going in 1080p instead of 360p, thus eating up more data for video. But that's the only use case where there may be a "problem." browsing websites won't change.
Won't matter. I have a Xoom that was upgraded from 3G to LTE. LTE hardware was added. Even with it set to CDMA only it doesn't help the extra battery consumption of the hardware even though the radios are isolated.
I've noticed this on a Razr and Thunderbolt too however I could never truly compare until the Xoom since the Razr and Thunderbolt came with LTE hardware.
There might be a SLIGHT difference but by no means is turning LTE off comparable too not having LTE. I'd probably say it was about a 20-25% battery hit, of course that's remembering it's old LTE tech so apples should be more efficient.
Besides Apple won't allow you to turn off LTE just like you can't turn off 3G (in the states anyway).
Only benefit I can think of is no change over delay however my Xoom and Razr do it just fine. I doubt apple will have an issue, haven't heard too many complaints from iPad LTE owners.
They will, just like on the iPad, and I jailbreak anyways, so I always have options. That's another issue. If they don't come out with a Jailbreak for a while, then I won't buy the 5.
I don't think there will be any issues. My logic is, however, that they will increase the battery capacity for LTE, so if I can turn LTE off, then I will get even more battery life than the 4S, which already has great battery life.
I've been using LTE on a mobile device for more than a year, and I don't see my data usage increasing 10x more doing the same tasks with my 3G mobile devices. My LTE data usage has increased more because of streaming apps like Hulu+, Netflix, etc..., but that's not what Applejuiced said in his post.
Even just browsing the web you'll use more data. When a web page loads instantly you'll load more pages per hour which uses more data. That's been my experience with my LTE iPad. I wouldn't say I use 10X more data but more like 3-5X as much on LTE which obviously matters on a capped data plan.
No your right, seems the larger phones will be in the 2100-2500 range this year, I was looking at some replacement packs to throw in my GSII but the bigger ones are too big, to keep the slim profile looks like around 2000 is the limit for this phone. I get crazy good battery life with this custom ICS Rom, so it would be cool to have a little larger battery in it for when I'm traveling.
Not sure what network you guys are on but no troubles with AT&T hspa+ and loading HD videos, they all stream immediately, no buffer stuttering like Edge etc.
I would be yes. Mostly because I want to jump from Sprint to Verizon (AT&T is a non-option due to me living in a dead zone for them yet full strength CDMA) and right now my options are:
A. Buy older, 3G only iPhone 4s for full price and suffer horrible data speeds or
B. Buy giant almost-tablet-size SIII/GNEX to get simultaneous voice/data and LTE.
I really hate this situation because my contract with Sprint is up this Thursday and I want to jump ASAP but there really isn't a great option to jump to. (Besides the much better network.) If there was a 4in iPhone with LTE this would be a no-brainier.
A. Buy older, 3G only iPhone 4s for full price and suffer horrible data speeds or
B. Buy giant almost-tablet-size SIII/GNEX to get simultaneous voice/data and LTE.
I really hate this situation because my contract with Sprint is up this Thursday and I want to jump ASAP but there really isn't a great option to jump to. (Besides the much better network.) If there was a 4in iPhone with LTE this would be a no-brainier.
They have a lot of smaller LTE phones like the RAZR, RAZR MAXX, Rezound, etc. They aren't the latest and greatest, but they are a better size.
It all depends on how people uses their devices... Ive been using lte several months before the new ipad and yes the first month i used more data than usually, that's because i was doing a lot of speed test and lots of streaming... After that i came to my old routine and i don't use any more data than i used too when i was on 3G...
Let's say your driving a BMW and always drive around 50mph to go to,work than suddenly you get a new ferrari that doesn't mean you'll automatically get speed tickets just because you have a faster car... Yes it will be tempting to go a little faster than usual but if you keep your old routine which is at 50mph you have nothing to worry about!
True but if I'm going to put cash down on a device, and keep it for two years, I'm going to darn well make sure I get the latest and greatest.
Not anymore. It's the Galaxy S3. I know it hasn't been widely released yet but there are some customers(T-Mobile) who have the phone already.
I'm willing to bet that in the stores, you will almost have to beat the crap out of them to sell you an unsubsidized phone, they will want people off unlimited that bad...
How can you get on unlimited with an unsubsidized phone? You have to pick the same plans they offer people on contract.