Are public betas updated alongside developer betas?

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  1. XTheLancerX macrumors 68000

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    For example, will Public Beta 2 come out right next to the Developer Beta 4, Public Beta 3 come out right next to Developer Beta 5, etc? Will there be a "Public Beta Golden Master"? Will there be the same one-day delay for the Public Betas?
     
  2. The Doctor11 macrumors 603

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    There's usually less public betas so probably not.
     
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    You can bet that they'll update the public betas as fast as they possibly can. They'll probably do so the day after like they did this time. Who knows when the next betas will come out (they've been inconsistent) but regardless, the public betas will follow developer betas probably by one day.
     
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    In the past, new public betas have not been released at the same time as new dev betas, however it's possible Apple has changed this. We won't know until the next beta is released.
     
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    This has not been the case with past public betas.
     
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    PB is usually every other DP from the past as a reference.

    So PB2 will probably be DP5.
     
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    Yes they have. For iOS, aside from the very first iOS 8.3 Public Beta build 1 (which was a Thursday, just like how iOS 9 Public Beta 1 started and came out a Thursday also) 8.3 PB 2 and up were same days as DP builds, except DP's numbering was higher due to having 1-2 builds before the PB even started. 8.4 PB 1 came same day as DP 2, and continued like that again all the way to DP 4 and PB 3.
     
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    No, PB is not usually every other DP. Never even seen that and I've been on both OS X and iOS Public Betas since both releases.
     
  9. XTheLancerX thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Okay, even from the conflicting responses, I think the PB come out with the DP versions. Now that I think of it, it seems that those came out the way you described (both came together) and it definitely makes more sense that way.

    Why would you have public beta users who are supposed to be somewhat helping with bug reporting, when they are on old builds reporting old bugs that may have been fixed in new builds unavailable to them? Makes no sense. Besides, these things are the same builds I'm pretty sure, just available to different people, for different reasons. So, since they are the same builds it would make sense to put the exact DP out to PB users, just renamed to "Public Beta X"
     
  10. theonekcrow macrumors 6502a

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    8.3 and 8.4 public betas were updated sparingly. Though when they were updated, they were usually updated alongside developer betas, so there is some parity there. I suspect it will be 4-6 weeks before the next public beta comes out. Developers will see another release in 2 weeks.
     
  11. ithinkwithportals macrumors regular

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    This is not a likely situation, as one of the aims of the iOS 9 release is to fix a ton of bugs. With the DPs, bugs in apps and such can be found, but mostly in the context of a development environment. Frequent PBs are needed simply because the users are going to find a high number of semi-unique ways to break apps and screw up the OS. Thus, if they keep the same release schedule for both, they can get more feedback, and be assured that as time goes on the bugs fixed will become more and more unusual. This would certainly help with the stability of the OS, after all.
     
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    This may be true too... as with 8.3 and 8.4 there were fewer amounts of testers, since they only released it to a small number of beta testers. Now that the flood gates are open, that may change. Though until we see the timeline of this public beta, I can only go on past history as an indicator.
     
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    I might be wrong about every other, but they are not in sync.

    This is the first time we are experiencing iOS X.0 PB, so you cannot compare it to 8.X. OS X 10.10 was different than 10.10.1, 10.10.2, 10.10.3 and 10.10.4.

    10.10.3 PB1 was 10.10.3 DP2.
    10.10.3 PB2 was 10.10.3 DP4.
    Not till PB3 did DP and PB go up together.

    10.10 PB1 was 10.10 DP3
    10.10 PB2 was 10.10 DP6 - This PB release came 3 days after the DP6 release.

    In total they were 7 DPs for 10.10 and only 2 PBs were released.
     
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    Ok you're right about 10.10.0 and 10.10.3. 10.10.0 is also kind of an outlier because it was the first time they ever did a Public Beta. But everything else if I remember right has been along side each other when there has been both DP and PB.

    Also this thread is in iOS 9 forums and all we've ever seen with iOS has been every new DP build has also seen a PB build Except of course for the first 1 or two DPs for each 8.3 and 8.4. (I think 8.3 was two builds ahead. So PB 1 with DP 3, and 8.4 was PB 1 with DP 2. Updates past those were we together.)
     
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    I'm aware this is iOS 9 and not El Cap. But because it's the first major, major iOS PB, I would expect similar things to 10.10 and not 8.3/8.4.
     
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    You could very well be right :) . But I personally think that they have ironed out all the kinks (10.10.0) of providing a public beta by now. And it should release as smoothly and often as it has in the at least the last 6 months like it has for 10.10.4, 8.3 and 8.4.

    But anyhoo, it's all just speculation and we'll see in the next 2-4 weeks when DP 4 comes.
     
  17. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    Honestly I don't see why they wouldn't want to release them at the same time. There's just no reason not to, as far as I can see.
     
  18. EltonT macrumors member

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    I currently have iOS 9 beta 3, should I update to the public beta? are the build numbers the same or is the PB newer?
     
  19. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    They both have identical build numbers. If you want the feedback app to report bugs, install the public beta profile from beta.apple.com/profile and delete the profile when a new Dev beta is released
     

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