Are the SR MBP problems slowly going away?

ProstheticHead

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I've been waiting before I make any move towards a new MBP for fear of all the defects that people have been complaining about (heat issues, poor thermal paste, yellow tint, etc), are those finally going away? Or are they still as prevalent as before?
 

DoFoT9

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Jun 11, 2007
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no there probably not going away. people are just learning that its not an individual problem with their own laptops because of the LARGE number of threads and are realising that the problems are normal and accross the board. so theyre probably reading the solutions on the threads that are already made and basing their ideas and solutions on that.
 

drewpace

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Jul 13, 2007
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no there probably not going away. people are just learning that its not an individual problem with their own laptops because of the LARGE number of threads and are realising that the problems are normal and accross the board. so theyre probably reading the solutions on the threads that are already made and basing their ideas and solutions on that.
i'm going to have to disagree with that. not about the fact that the problems are not going away or about the searching through threads, but that these problems are normal and across the board. what we are seeing are the few that unfortunately ended up with a faulty product and post here to find a remedy. even after browsing through these forums for 2 min., it is apparent that there are some very knowledgeable folks that are willing to help. i know if i had a problem with my new mbp, i would post here or search asap to get some opinions.

if you sit back and think about it, you are seeing everyone that browses these forums with a new sr mbp that are unhappy. you are not seeing anything about those that are satisfied. if these problems are literally "accross the board", wouldn't apple do something about it? or wouldn't the media at least pounce on them?

i bought my mbp about 3 wks ago and i can't think of one thing that disappoints me. i have looked for problems too. i gotta say though, it's hard not letting those threads, or really any negative story you hear about a product dissuading you from purchasing it when you know you really want it.
 

ProstheticHead

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i'm going to have to disagree with that. not about the fact that the problems are not going away or about the searching through threads, but that these problems are normal and across the board. what we are seeing are the few that unfortunately ended up with a faulty product and post here to find a remedy. even after browsing through these forums for 2 min., it is apparent that there are some very knowledgeable folks that are willing to help. i know if i had a problem with my new mbp, i would post here or search asap to get some opinions.

if you sit back and think about it, you are seeing everyone that browses these forums with a new sr mbp that are unhappy. you are not seeing anything about those that are satisfied. if these problems are literally "accross the board", wouldn't apple do something about it? or wouldn't the media at least pounce on them?

i bought my mbp about 3 wks ago and i can't think of one thing that disappoints me. i have looked for problems too. i gotta say though, it's hard not letting those threads, or really any negative story you hear about a product dissuading you from purchasing it when you know you really want it.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I keep fighting myself over the decision to buy or not to buy, only time will tell I guess. :D
 

blackslayer

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Jul 21, 2007
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i'm going to have to disagree with that. not about the fact that the problems are not going away or about the searching through threads, but that these problems are normal and across the board. what we are seeing are the few that unfortunately ended up with a faulty product and post here to find a remedy. even after browsing through these forums for 2 min., it is apparent that there are some very knowledgeable folks that are willing to help. i know if i had a problem with my new mbp, i would post here or search asap to get some opinions.

if you sit back and think about it, you are seeing everyone that browses these forums with a new sr mbp that are unhappy. you are not seeing anything about those that are satisfied. if these problems are literally "accross the board", wouldn't apple do something about it? or wouldn't the media at least pounce on them?

i bought my mbp about 3 wks ago and i can't think of one thing that disappoints me. i have looked for problems too. i gotta say though, it's hard not letting those threads, or really any negative story you hear about a product dissuading you from purchasing it when you know you really want it.
Are you using the new Sr too? Just wanna ask u whether do u experience any kernel panics when u experience go online without ur charger on...
 

DoFoT9

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Jun 11, 2007
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i'm going to have to disagree with that. not about the fact that the problems are not going away or about the searching through threads, but that these problems are normal and across the board. what we are seeing are the few that unfortunately ended up with a faulty product and post here to find a remedy. even after browsing through these forums for 2 min., it is apparent that there are some very knowledgeable folks that are willing to help. i know if i had a problem with my new mbp, i would post here or search asap to get some opinions.

if you sit back and think about it, you are seeing everyone that browses these forums with a new sr mbp that are unhappy. you are not seeing anything about those that are satisfied. if these problems are literally "accross the board", wouldn't apple do something about it? or wouldn't the media at least pounce on them?

i bought my mbp about 3 wks ago and i can't think of one thing that disappoints me. i have looked for problems too. i gotta say though, it's hard not letting those threads, or really any negative story you hear about a product dissuading you from purchasing it when you know you really want it.
ok i agree with ya that all the people with problems frantically post and post and whatnot giving their opinions to get it fixed, and to a lesser extent conveying their distaste to apple and all that. and there are a fair few of them.

the fact that they are across the board...so to speak is that the same problems are occuring to alot of people. i have seen a post where a guy said that the whole apple store's computers had the "yellow tint" issue. that seems pretty bad to me.

im really truely happy that your mbp is working, thats great to hear. if i can use you as an example tho... have u posted any threads about how awsome and perfect ur mbp is?? i dont think a lot of people have. i agree that we need a lot more threads like this to keep random readers happy. there are so many people hu arent members here and come here for a random read everynow and then and they would be seeing that many mbp problems that they might get turned off by it.
 

queshy

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Apr 2, 2005
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i like the laptop but am worried about whether or not I have defects. I had one kernel panic when I was doing a software update and plugged in a USB stick as it was finishing. I still am undecided as to whether or not I will return it.

Edit: w00t! the big 500 !
 

drewpace

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Jul 13, 2007
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I do have a sr and i haven't had any problems using airport without using the power adapter.

i haven't made any threads proclaiming my love for my new laptop, but the few posts i have made had something to do with how i am very pleased with my purchase.

eer.....what is a kernal panic?
 

Cookiemonster

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Jul 5, 2007
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I just ordered mine last night, customized and I am honestly terrified that there will be problems with it, Im somewhat new to these forums and such, Im thinking about calling in and changing it from customized to regular since it says it wont ship out before august 2-9... I hope the problem is solved by then.... :S
 

DoFoT9

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Jun 11, 2007
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I just ordered mine last night, customized and I am honestly terrified that there will be problems with it, Im somewhat new to these forums and such, Im thinking about calling in and changing it from customized to regular since it says it wont ship out before august 2-9... I hope the problem is solved by then.... :S
wanna share what the problem is??? or is it too scary to talk about? ;)
 

Sbrocket

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Jun 3, 2007
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I've been waiting before I make any move towards a new MBP for fear of all the defects that people have been complaining about (heat issues, poor thermal paste, yellow tint, etc), are those finally going away? Or are they still as prevalent as before?
First of all, in most cases this "poor thermal paste application" is a non-issue. Sure it might be sloppily done, but it's not like your computer is going to melt just because its a few degrees hotter. This is assuming, of course, that you are performing some task that is strenuous enough on the hardware for it to start to get hot. As for general heat issues...it is an aluminum case, so its bound do conduct heat. There are people with genuine problems that more often than not get them fixed, but complaining about "heat issues" because your legs were toasted while rendering some video with the laptop sitting on your bare legs is hardly something to complain about. Lots of activity = heat, that's never going to change with any laptop. Of course if you have a cheap plastic enclosure instead of a metal one you'll probably feel the heat less, though that does little for dissipation.

Second, there are many people complaining about the yellow tint issue but I've as of yet seen only one (1) photo claiming to properly document it. It was certainly visible, though I must admit that the abundance of complaints is a bit unjustified...especially for a lot of people that can't even show any proof. Also, this issue has been thoroughly confused with an unrelated and completely nonsensical complaint about the nature of LCD screens to turn yellow when you view them at an extreme angle instead of straight on.

If "heat issues, poor thermal paste, and yellow tint" is the best that you can think of as far as SR MBP defects goes, then I'm not sure what all this complaining is about.
 

PDE

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First of all, in most cases this "poor thermal paste application" is a non-issue. Sure it might be sloppily done, but it's not like your computer is going to melt just because its a few degrees hotter. This is assuming, of course, that you are performing some task that is strenuous enough on the hardware for it to start to get hot. As for general heat issues...it is an aluminum case, so its bound do conduct heat. There are people with genuine problems that more often than not get them fixed, but complaining about "heat issues" because your legs were toasted while rendering some video with the laptop sitting on your bare legs is hardly something to complain about. Lots of activity = heat, that's never going to change with any laptop. Of course if you have a cheap plastic enclosure instead of a metal one you'll probably feel the heat less, though that does little for dissipation.

Second, there are many people complaining about the yellow tint issue but I've as of yet seen only one (1) photo claiming to properly document it. It was certainly visible, though I must admit that the abundance of complaints is a bit unjustified...especially for a lot of people that can't even show any proof. Also, this issue has been thoroughly confused with an unrelated and completely nonsensical complaint about the nature of LCD screens to turn yellow when you view them at an extreme angle instead of straight on.

If "heat issues, poor thermal paste, and yellow tint" is the best that you can think of as far as SR MBP defects goes, then I'm not sure what all this complaining is about.
Heat IS an issue. Apple hasn't figured out a better way to deal with it though, and nor have most manufacturers. That it's metal makes it worse for the user and arguably better for the components, but there are many plastic notebooks that feel cooler and seem to be holding up just as well, so I doubt anybody could really offer evidence that by using metal in the frame Apple is prolonging the life of the internals. As a user, I'd much prefer a slightly less flashy case if it meant a cool exterior.

The yellow issue is real. It's VERY hard to capture with a camera though. I tried very hard and really couldn't do it with my Nikon D80 and Nikon 60mm micro which is a superbly good lens. Mine was an LG and really wasn't bad. I've seen a bad one and, I tell you, you'd flip if you got one like that! the entire lower third had a yellowish hue. Given the number of complaints on thsi forum alone (there many more out there - some people complain and come here, others suffer in silence, some get apple to fix it without coming here, and of course many don't see it or don't have the issue), this IS an issue. To say otherwise is just not facing facts.
 

mainomega

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Jun 5, 2007
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There is nothing wrong my 17" MBP 2.4 (SR). It gets hot while gaming but they all get hot. Nothing over 85 though.
 

blackslayer

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Jul 21, 2007
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Heat IS an issue. Apple hasn't figured out a better way to deal with it though, and nor have most manufacturers. That it's metal makes it worse for the user and arguably better for the components, but there are many plastic notebooks that feel cooler and seem to be holding up just as well, so I doubt anybody could really offer evidence that by using metal in the frame Apple is prolonging the life of the internals. As a user, I'd much prefer a slightly less flashy case if it meant a cool exterior.

The yellow issue is real. It's VERY hard to capture with a camera though. I tried very hard and really couldn't do it with my Nikon D80 and Nikon 60mm micro which is a superbly good lens. Mine was an LG and really wasn't bad. I've seen a bad one and, I tell you, you'd flip if you got one like that! the entire lower third had a yellowish hue. Given the number of complaints on thsi forum alone (there many more out there - some people complain and come here, others suffer in silence, some get apple to fix it without coming here, and of course many don't see it or don't have the issue), this IS an issue. To say otherwise is just not facing facts.
Hmm so Lg LAC panel is better than Samsung LCd panel? Because from what i know..for SR mbp has two manufacturers for LCD..
 

Cookiemonster

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Jul 5, 2007
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in the desert somewhere
wanna share what the problem is??? or is it too scary to talk about? ;)
Well I just customized my notebook, and Im coming across all these problems with the screen, with humming, kernal panics and I am personally technologically retarded, new to mac and such...so I will be in horrible shape trying to fix anything should it come with problems and have a nightmare situation if I need to return and such... I dont know I ordered friday night and its sunday around noonish- any advice? I dont have the the ability to remain worried till it arrives, is it possible to change my order to regular specs since obviously the notebook has not shipped/prepared shipping... Im somewhat confused...

thanks