Are there any retina grade (at least 180ppi) 4K monitors?

[Ploki]

I have the LG UltraFine 4K 21.5", but i'm looking for another one to connect to 2012 15" retina mac my gf has.
I remember the Dell p2415q, but it's nowhere to be found anymore.
most are 27" which ends up being huge and not sharp.

 

[casperes1996]

Any 4k monitor smaller than 24" would be 180+PPI. "Retina" as originally defined by Apple would also take into account distance from the monitor though, so achieve that just sit further back, hehe.
Seems like there's a good deal of 4K 24" monitors on the market though; Even an UltraFine 🙂

 

[Stephen.R]

Seems like there's a good deal of 4K 24" monitors on the market though;

Can you clarify that with actual models?

There used to be The Dell P2415Q (seemingly discontinued), the LG 24" 4K Ultrafine (seemingly discontinued) and the LG 24" 24UD58-B (seemingly discontinued).

 

[Amethyst1]

connect to 2012 15" retina mac my gf has.

A 2012 15" MBP, no matter if "retina" or not, will not drive a 4K monitor at 60 Hz because it lacks DisplayPort 1.2 (thanks to Thunderbolt 1). As for monitors, there was also the 23.6" Samsung U24E850R.

 

[Ploki]

Any 4k monitor smaller than 24" would be 180+PPI. "Retina" as originally defined by Apple would also take into account distance from the monitor though, so achieve that just sit further back, hehe.
Seems like there's a good deal of 4K 24" monitors on the market though; Even an UltraFine 🙂

The new Ultrafine 23.8" is thunderbolt 3, i'm not sure if it would work with Thunderbolt2/Hdmi of the 2012 mbp.
And the ultrafine is like 800€...
the 21.5" was at least 220ppi and 4096*2304, the new model is 23.8" and 3820*2160, and its 800€. The dell and LGs were more like 400€. And even then, the 4K is again gone from the apple page.

 

[Ploki]

A 2012 15" MBP, no matter if "retina" or not, will not drive a 4K monitor at 60 Hz because it lacks DisplayPort 1.2 (thanks to Thunderbolt 1). As for monitors, there was also the 23.6" Samsung U24E850R.

oh crap, i thought it had Thunderbolt2...
HdMI is also limited to 30Hz i think.

 

[Amethyst1]

oh crap, i thought it had Thunderbolt2...
HdMI is also limited to 30Hz i think.

Bingo. You might still be able to get a higher refresh rate like 40 Hz by exploiting DP 1.1's full pixel clock but a) the monitor has to accept odd refresh rates (the Dell P2415Q does, I've had quite a bit of fun with that one) and b) while noticeably better than the unusable 30 Hz, it's not nearly as smooth as 60 Hz.

 

[casperes1996]

Can you clarify that with actual models?

There used to be The Dell P2415Q (seemingly discontinued), the LG 24" 4K Ultrafine (seemingly discontinued) and the LG 24" 24UD58-B (seemingly discontinued).

It was based on extremely shallow research, just putting 24" 4K into Google and seeing a fair few results - I did not check availability or if they were discontinued

 

[Ploki]

It was based on extremely shallow research, just putting 24" 4K into Google and seeing a fair few results - I did not check availability or if they were discontinued

yeah well, that's the problem 🙂 (availability and discontinuation)
for some reason, nobody likes small 4K monitors.
I love my 21.5" ultrafine 4K.

 

[bobbie424242]

The lack of high density (> 200ppi) monitors choice at all sizes (except laptops with 4K panel) is a tragedy...
My main and best monitor is my 17" 4K laptop (not a macbook obviouslty) panel for its whooping 255ppi. And I'm sitting next to the Dell 24" P2415Q (183ppi) and a 27" 4K Asus monitor (163ppi).