Are there any UB or Intel games with Dolby Digital Surround?

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  1. Irishman macrumors 68030

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    For the Mac, of course. I have Deus Ex, but that's OS 9 and only works with a patch specific to Creative's SB Live! card, which I have, and a set of Klipsch Promedia 5.1's.

    Anyone know of newer titles that feature legitimate Dolby Digital Surround? I thought Doom 3 did, but I haven't found any reference to it in the reviews.
     
  2. applekid macrumors 68020

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    I think Doom 3 added Dolby Digital Sound (or possibly at least 5.1 audio) in a patch.

    In general, Mac games skimp on the DDS and 5.1 audio from what I understand. There was a long thread in the Inside Mac Games forums about this a while back. Maybe you can find it?

    I think World of WarCraft has 5.1 support, but I'm not certain.
     
  3. Irishman thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Well, as far as that goes, 5.1 can either be Dolby Digital or Digital Theater Surround (aka DTS), or some faked simulated surround sound.

    I hope it's the real thing. I'll do some digging.

    Well, it didn't take long to find the patch, on filefront, where it specifically mentions 5.1 OpenAL support for OSX and external sound cards (like the FireWave I imagine?). The patch is compatible with OSX versions up to 10.4.

    Plus, a link to specs on the Firewave mentions WoW and UT2k4 for Mac as having 5.1 dolby digital surround.

    Hot. A great start.

    Just found two more additions - UB versions of Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast take advantage of it.

    Also, apparently Quicktime supports it via Coreaudio, so if you play some movie trailers on quicktime.com that are DD encoded Like the HD Harry Potter trailer, it plays back in full DD surround!

    (Via the Firewave or similar device)

    From unanalog.com I found that Call of Duty 2 features OpenAL sound, Apple's page lists X2: The Threat as an OpenAL title, but doesn't specify DD. I imagine X3 might use it too. From garagegames.com I found that Dark Horizons: Lore Invasion supports OpenAL 3D audio.

    From the openal.org page:

    Albert's Armageddon (where it lists multiple formats it's not a given that the Mac one will use it as the Linux or windows version does)
    Alien Flux
    America's Army: Operations
    A Tale in the Desert II
    Battle Just Started
    Bridge Construction Set
    Escape From Monkey Island
    Eternal Lands
    Flight Gear
    Gish
    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
    Legends
    Marble Blast
    Massive Assault
    Megacorps Online
    Minions of Mirth
    Orbz
    Planeshift
    Postal 2
    Scorched 3D
    Stubbs the Zombie
    Supertux
    Think Tanks
    TORCS
    Tribal Trouble
    Trigger
    Ultratron
    VDrift
    Vega Strike
    Wurm Online
    X-Plane
    Zap!

    Now, clearly the presence of OpenAl can't mean these all play back in dolby 5 channel surround sound on a Firewave connected to a 5.1 speaker system does it? Probably not?

    Anyone in a position to verfiy any of these?
     
  4. applekid macrumors 68020

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    Most Mac gamers used the M-Audio's Revolution 5.1 and 7.1 PCI audio cards. I am unaware of any PCI-X or PCIe sound cards, and the only real option I've are using the digital audio out on most current Macs or the FireWave as you mentioned.

    You definitely did quite a bit of research. Keep us posted :D
     
  5. Irishman thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Applekid, do you have a 5.1 setup on your Mac? If so, how's the experience with movies and games?

    Plus, I did a lot of reading on openal.org, and it seems the whole raison d-etre for it IS 3D audio, so I imagine that all the games on that above list actually SHOULD feature 5.1 surround.
     
  6. Irishman thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Ohh, I am reading the OpenAL forum archive, and someone using the name "bills at apple.com" posted the following:

    "We are planning on supporting up to 8 channel configurations (inc.
    7.0 (we don't output separate info for the LFE channel) as well as
    octagonal speaker systems) for Leopard.

    If you would like to test this (which would be great!), you can enrol
    in the Leopard seeing program (I'm not sure of the exact process, but
    http://developer.apple.com should have details). That will get you
    early access and the ability to test this before we ship (though it
    is late in the game for Leopard at this stage).

    Thanks

    Bill"


    I don't know how legit this is, but it would mean that Leopard would be including 7 channel surround (DD perhaps?) and that if compatible hardware exists to play it back and output it, you would be in business.

    Hot tidbit, I think.
     
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