Are you going to upgrade/downgrade the size of your next iPad?

[TinaBelcher]

How many of you are considering to downgrade in size when the new iPad comes out later this year? If, so what are some of of the reasons?

I’m have a 12.9 and I love it! It’s the right choice for the full iPad experience. I love multitasking on it, drawing on it, browsing on it.. but my eyes are suffering from the large screen. It’s not like a MBP where the keyboard is in between you and the screen. I really, really, really miss watching YouTube (I still do on air 9.7) and I don’t enjoy annotating my PDFs on it. I can’t grab on to it like a note-taking booklet. I still have my original iPad Air, but I shouldn’t be using it more than my 12.9. It defeats the purpose of buying the 12.9. The on-screen keyboard may be full sized, but it takes half my documents therefor a physical one would be nice... but I can’t imagine myself using multi view on a smaller device unless Apple comes out with an 11.7 device.

My dream would be for Apple make the screen longer if they remove the home button. It would make it more tolerable for multi view. Then I would defiantly consider downgrading my size!

 

[IPadNParadise]

I just bought a 10.5 to replace my 12.9 gen 2 because I got tired of managing that large size. I am handing down my 12.9 to my 18 y.o. Granddaughter, she is fascinated by its size. I haven’t given it to her yet but have not even picked up the 12.9 since I got the 10.5. I really am enjoying this 10.5 and may not upgrade to this next new version coming. Not crazy about the Face ID.

 

[Ray2]

Neither. Looking for an Android replacement just today as I'm sick and tired of the intrusive iOS 11 dock on my mini 4.

 

[tkukoc]

Already use iPad Pro 12.9 at home but it is more or less to toy around with. I know I use it a lot more now that I have the keyboard case, that has been very helpful. I don't see me upgrading my ipad for another couple years. My fave is still the Mini series. If they made one as powerful as iPad Pro, I'd be all over that in a heartbeat.

 

[rui no onna]

I've got a dual iPad setup. Last year, I skipped the Pro 10.5 and got the 2017 Pro 12.9 to complement my 2016 Pro 9.7.

Not sure what I'll do this year. Mostly depends on whether Apple increases PPI of the Pro 10.5 to at least match mini 4/iPhone 4-8 pixel density. That's the main item on my wish list.

 

[TinaBelcher]

Already use iPad Pro 12.9 at home but it is more or less to toy around with. I know I use it a lot more now that I have the keyboard case, that has been very helpful. I don't see me upgrading my ipad for another couple years. My fave is still the Mini series. If they made one as powerful as iPad Pro, I'd be all over that in a heartbeat.

I once got the ask and returned it 1 hour later because it felt like a MacBook but also cause it would almost fall forward if I tucked it away into a stand case. How do you mange it?
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I've got a dual iPad setup. Last year, I skipped the Pro 10.5 and got the 2017 Pro 12.9 to complement my 2016 Pro 9.7.

Not sure what I'll do this year. Mostly depends on whether Apple increases PPI of the Pro 10.5 to at least match mini 4/iPhone 4-8 pixel density. That's the main item on my wish list.

Yeah, I’d hope the 10.5 was the same frame as 12.9 just scaled down to fit 10.5 of couse.

 

[kazmac]

Unless there is an iPad Mini with Pencil support, no.

 

[sparksd]

Neither. Looking for an Android replacement just today as I'm sick and tired of the intrusive iOS 11 dock on my mini 4.

I have the 10.5 Pro but also the 8" Samsung Galaxy Tab S2, which is a real nice device. I use Nova Prime as a launcher.

 

[pika2000]

Neither. Looking for an Android replacement just today as I'm sick and tired of the intrusive iOS 11 dock on my mini 4.

Good luck using an Android tablet. Unless you only use it for kids watching youtube or games, Android tablet is just piss poor in app experience.

 

[MacInTO]

I have the 10.5 Pro but also the 8" Samsung Galaxy Tab S2, which is a real nice device. I use Nova Prime as a launcher.

I've got a similar setup. I have the 10.5 and a Galaxy Tab S10.5. The IPP was meant to replace it but I find watching videos better on the Tab S.

 

[sparksd]

I've got a similar setup. I have the 10.5 and a Galaxy Tab S10.5. The IPP was meant to replace it but I find watching videos better on the Tab S.

Yeah, the 8" Tab is really nice and acts as my Mini to my 10.5 iPP.

I'm not going to get into any arguments regarding Android vs iOS here.

 

[MacInTO]

Yeah, the 8" Tab is really nice and acts as my Mini to my 10.5 iPP.

I'm not going to get into any arguments regarding Android vs iOS here.

Yes it's pointless. Both have their benefits and drawbacks. I like using both.

 

[Woodcrest64]

I have an iPad Air 2 as well as the original iPad. Plan on getting iPad Pro 10.5 with the Face ID. I am considering the 12.9 but I think it’s a little too big for travel for me.

 

[DoubleFlyaway]

I've got a dual iPad setup. Last year, I skipped the Pro 10.5 and got the 2017 Pro 12.9 to complement my 2016 Pro 9.7.

Not sure what I'll do this year. Mostly depends on whether Apple increases PPI of the Pro 10.5 to at least match mini 4/iPhone 4-8 pixel density. That's the main item on my wish list.

Similar, with 12.9 and Air 2. If they do something dramatic to the 10.5, I’ll probably upgrade.

 

[Saskat]

Any rumors if there will be a 9.7 iPad in the 2018 lineup?

 

[Eric5273]

Ideal for me would be something around the physical size of my 10.5, perhaps even a little larger, but smaller than the 12.9. And without any bezel, I’m sure that would translate into 11-11.5” size screen.

 

[PBMB]

How many of you are considering to downgrade in size when the new iPad comes out later this year? If, so what are some of of the reasons?

I have an iPad mini 4, so downgrading in size is not really possible . I am occasionally using my wife's 10.5" Pro and I find it big. It is a very nice and fast machine, no doubt about it, but large for me, unless it is going to stay and be used at home all the time. For daily commute and generally outdoors use the mini is unbeatable. I hope Apple does update it sometime.

 

[ssledoux]

I’m using a 12.9, and though I’ve toyed with going to the 10.5, I just don’t think I could give up the size. I love this thing with the ASK, and it has completely replaced my iMac.

That being said I use my phone a lot more when I’m laying around because I’m small and the iPP is just bigger than I want to have in my lap when I’m relaxing. If a new mini were to come out, I would jump on that!

 

[IJBrekke]

Ideal for me would be something around the physical size of my 10.5, perhaps even a little larger, but smaller than the 12.9. And without any bezel, I’m sure that would translate into 11-11.5” size screen.

I'm still waiting for the 8.5x11 screen.

 

[red41]

I'll take as big of an ipad as they will give me. Currently have the 12.9 but I would go larger if they let me.

 

[sracer]

How many of you are considering to downgrade in size when the new iPad comes out later this year? If, so what are some of of the reasons?

I’m have a 12.9 and I love it! It’s the right choice for the full iPad experience. I love multitasking on it, drawing on it, browsing on it.. but my eyes are suffering from the large screen. It’s not like a MBP where the keyboard is in between you and the screen. I really, really, really miss watching YouTube (I still do on air 9.7) and I don’t enjoy annotating my PDFs on it. I can’t grab on to it like a note-taking booklet. I still have my original iPad Air, but I shouldn’t be using it more than my 12.9. It defeats the purpose of buying the 12.9. The on-screen keyboard may be full sized, but it takes half my documents therefor a physical one would be nice... but I can’t imagine myself using multi view on a smaller device unless Apple comes out with an 11.7 device.

My dream would be for Apple make the screen longer if they remove the home button. It would make it more tolerable for multi view. Then I would defiantly consider downgrading my size!

Great question! My Answer: It's complicated.

With the release of iOS 11, Apple has shown me that they aren't willing to "open up" iOS 11 to be more accommodating to my desire for the iPad Pro to take on more notebook-like tendencies without compromising the tablet experience. So while I am more productive with my 1st gen 12.9 iPad Pro+ASK+Pencil+Citrix X1 mouse, there are still many iOS-specific speedbumps to my workflows. After spending much time and experimenting, I've learned what is possible and what is not... and things aren't going to get any better (if iOS 11 is any indication).

Concurrent with that, I found the need to buy a Mini 4 to complement the 12.9 Pro for those situations where using the 12.9 is simply not feasible. That has worked out extremely well and I'm very impressed with the screen quality, performance, and battery life of the Mini 4. Even using an art glove and powered-capacitive fine-point stylus with the Mini 4 gave me a glimpse of how useful an Apple Pencil-supported Mini could be.

And on yet a 3rd branch of experimentation, I bought a greatly discounted brand new Lenovo Yoga Book (Android). This has surprisingly turned out to be just about exactly what I was hoping the iPad Pro would be. With this, I've had to make FEWER adjustments to my workflows than I did with the iPad Pro, so the transition was easier. Because I'm still heavily connected to Apple products, it will be a while before I fully make a transition.

So to answer your question: Yes, I'm considering downsizing my current 12.9 iPad Pro should new iPads be released this year. I'll be looking for an updated iPad Mini that includes support for the Apple Pencil. That is going to replace my 12.9 Pro. I will then use this new Mini + my 11" Macbook Air as my "Apple-centric" mobile solution. Together, the combination will be terrific for me... more functional than just the 12.9 Pro, enough to justify to me the increased bulk and weight.

 

[zchrykng]

I currently have a 10.5, but would go down to a mini if it had the pro features. Bought the pro thinking I would actually get some work done on it, but quickly figure out that was basically impossible for the stuff I do most of the time. Or if it is possible it takes 5 times longer with far more effort and stress. I like iOS fine, but prefer macOS, Windows, or Linux over it for doing actual work.

 

[Donfor39]

I just bought a 10.5 to replace my 12.9 gen 2 because I got tired of managing that large size. I am handing down my 12.9 to my 18 y.o. Granddaughter, she is fascinated by its size. I haven’t given it to her yet but have not even picked up the 12.9 since I got the 10.5. I really am enjoying this 10.5 and may not upgrade to this next new version coming. Not crazy about the Face ID.

10.5 mid 2017 via Air1 upgrade.
I don’t have any intention of ipad upgrade.
se is next upgrade and that’s at least 12-18 months away!

 

[TinaBelcher]

I currently have a 10.5, but would go down to a mini if it had the pro features. Bought the pro thinking I would actually get some work done on it, but quickly figure out that was basically impossible for the stuff I do most of the time. Or if it is possible it takes 5 times longer with far more effort and stress. I like iOS fine, but prefer macOS, Windows, or Linux over it for doing actual work.

I get what you mean. I also thought I’d get work done on my 12.9 way faster than on my MacBook, but in reality it takes longer. I do enjoy using it more than my MacBook which always heats up and feels uncomfortable in bed because of the keyboard. However, the iPad doesn’t feel productive, it just feels light and comfortable to use. Reading all this love for the mini makes me want to buy one, because I can’t fall asleep without an iPad next to me because I have a playlist of videos that helps me fall asleep. The 12.9 should is defiantly not suitable for that.
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Great question! My Answer: It's complicated.

With the release of iOS 11, Apple has shown me that they aren't willing to "open up" iOS 11 to be more accommodating to my desire for the iPad Pro to take on more notebook-like tendencies without compromising the tablet experience. So while I am more productive with my 1st gen 12.9 iPad Pro+ASK+Pencil+Citrix X1 mouse, there are still many iOS-specific speedbumps to my workflows. After spending much time and experimenting, I've learned what is possible and what is not... and things aren't going to get any better (if iOS 11 is any indication).

Concurrent with that, I found the need to buy a Mini 4 to complement the 12.9 Pro for those situations where using the 12.9 is simply not feasible. That has worked out extremely well and I'm very impressed with the screen quality, performance, and battery life of the Mini 4. Even using an art glove and powered-capacitive fine-point stylus with the Mini 4 gave me a glimpse of how useful an Apple Pencil-supported Mini could be.

And on yet a 3rd branch of experimentation, I bought a greatly discounted brand new Lenovo Yoga Book (Android). This has surprisingly turned out to be just about exactly what I was hoping the iPad Pro would be. With this, I've had to make FEWER adjustments to my workflows than I did with the iPad Pro, so the transition was easier. Because I'm still heavily connected to Apple products, it will be a while before I fully make a transition.

So to answer your question: Yes, I'm considering downsizing my current 12.9 iPad Pro should new iPads be released this year. I'll be looking for an updated iPad Mini that includes support for the Apple Pencil. That is going to replace my 12.9 Pro. I will then use this new Mini + my 11" Macbook Air as my "Apple-centric" mobile solution. Together, the combination will be terrific for me... more functional than just the 12.9 Pro, enough to justify to me the increased bulk and weight.

Yeah, iOS 11 is so damn limited. All it gave us was the dock and more ways to multitask, but I dislike being forced to use apps that are poorly developed. For instance, I have to use google doc for school and I just can’t deal with the app version. iOS doesn’t allow me to work with my google drive through its web browser no matter it being safari, chrome or Firefox. I can login, but nothing happens when typing to click on my files or create a new one.

How do you use your ASK when wanting to tuck away the keyboard and just use a stand for the iPad? I tried it once and it made my iPad almost fall forward because it sat straight up rather than lilting back. I had to return the ASK right away and now I’m using the ASC instead which feels nice and light but it’s a nightmare to stay in place as my iPad falls back every 20 minutes.
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I’m using a 12.9, and though I’ve toyed with going to the 10.5, I just don’t think I could give up the size. I love this thing with the ASK, and it has completely replaced my iMac.

That being said I use my phone a lot more when I’m laying around because I’m small and the iPP is just bigger than I want to have in my lap when I’m relaxing. If a new mini were to come out, I would jump on that!

Same. I would need Apple to use the 12.9 picture frame and scale it down to fit the 10.5 in order for me to purchase it. I rather read smaller text as I always can zoom, instead of not having enough view of what I’m working with.

 

[sracer]

Yeah, iOS 11 is so damn limited. All it gave us was the dock and more ways to multitask, but I dislike being forced to use apps that are poorly developed. For instance, I have to use google doc for school and I just can’t deal with the app version. iOS doesn’t allow me to work with my google drive through its web browser no matter it being safari, chrome or Firefox. I can login, but nothing happens when typing to click on my files or create a new one.

In my experimenting, I thought that the iOS-based Google apps to access Google services might've been a way to use the iPad as a chromebook of sorts. As you've discovered, it is pretty limiting.

Among the mountain of devices I have, is an Acer R11 chromebook. This "convertible" works surprisingly well. Being able to use the fully functional Google apps, desktop version of Chrome browser, and Android apps to fill in the gap, has made the platform a viable alternative to the iPad Pro. (though I'd probably get the Samsung chromebook Plus)

How do you use your ASK when wanting to tuck away the keyboard and just use a stand for the iPad? I tried it once and it made my iPad almost fall forward because it sat straight up rather than lilting back. I had to return the ASK right away and now I’m using the ASC instead which feels nice and light but it’s a nightmare to stay in place as my iPad falls back every 20 minutes.

I don't often use the ASK as a "traditional" stand, but the few times I did, it was a "squirrely" affair. It didn't feel stable. One time the keyboard part "unfolded" causing the iPad to fall back. Another time, it was a bit too vertical and tipped forward onto the desk. So I only use it as a keyboard stand.

I also have the ASC but have not had the issues that you experienced. I replied to you in that thread with a possible explanation as to what might be going on... including a photo of what I was describing.