Most of the third party stuff I have used, and i admit its not much, has not been that slow for me so it hasn't bothered me much.
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Are you OK with the LAG in app refreshing its content?
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App developers will remedy all these complaints, and I think it will happen sooner rather than later. This is a brand new device with a brand new UI and OS. It will get better, and it will happen BEFORE the next watch comes out.
I find that when im home connected to wifi both the phone and the watch apps seems to take less time to load data... When im out and only connected to lte apps do seems to take a little more time since the data is transfered through Bluetooth vs Wi-Fi when im home
The problem is not the watch but the apps and the fact that developers have little idea at the moment how best to utilise the device. I imagined for example Wunderkist, Things and ToDoist being killer apps for the watch when in truth they are almost pointless beyond Apples own reminder system. You simply need basic information with as few interactions as possible. When apps realise this things will improve.
In defense of developers, they've had very limited access to the Apple Watch until recently. Only a chosen few even saw a watch, and they had to travel to Cupertino and work under lock and key. It's hard to optimize your code when you don't even have an actual device to test it on.
Are you OK with the LAG in app refreshing its content?
Oh, I am not blaming the developers since I know it's Apple who locked down the Apple Watch OS.
I know Apple will eventually optimize the OS such that the lag is significantly reduced. I am just curious as how Apple decided that it is acceptable for apps (even their own) to display the content after 3-5 seconds. This may not sound too long, but the purpose of the watch (IMHO) is to provide a quick glance no pun intended) on the information. The lag defeat this purpose if I have to wait that long just to take a peek of the information I want.
What really get me though is that while waiting for the content to be refreshed, the screen turned off. AAAGH!!
I wish there is a setting to choose how long the screen can stay lit.
Oh, I am not blaming the developers since I know it's Apple who locked down the Apple Watch OS.
I know Apple will eventually optimize the OS such that the lag is significantly reduced. I am just curious as how Apple decided that it is acceptable for apps (even their own) to display the content after 3-5 seconds. This may not sound too long, but the purpose of the watch (IMHO) is to provide a quick glance no pun intended) on the information. The lag defeat this purpose if I have to wait that long just to take a peek of the information I want.
What really get me though is that while waiting for the content to be refreshed, the screen turned off. AAAGH!!
I wish there is a setting to choose how long the screen can stay lit.I think it's not so much the speed of bluetooth (which is fast) as the time to initiate the fast connection in the first place. Same complaint has been made for smart locks like August that rely on bluetooth. You walk up, it initiates the connection, which can take a few seconds, then it unlocks the door for you.
I'm sure we'll see drastic improvements oner the next couple years.
Typical Apple watch app, for now, is..
Tap on icon, watch app launcher makes an RPC call to the phone, if the app isn't running then you have launch time, then if you have connection requirements you have a delay whilst the phone makes it's connection and gets it's data.. then you have the app on the phone performance to consider and how many steps it takes before and during rendering a display to the device.
The SDK/IOs Simulator treats the Apple Watch as a remote display only so a lot of this is going to be down to the phone app startup time and sure there may be some optimisations on the way.
Tap on icon, watch app launcher makes an RPC call to the phone, if the app isn't running then you have launch time, then if you have connection requirements you have a delay whilst the phone makes it's connection and gets it's data.. then you have the app on the phone performance to consider and how many steps it takes before and during rendering a display to the device.
The SDK/IOs Simulator treats the Apple Watch as a remote display only so a lot of this is going to be down to the phone app startup time and sure there may be some optimisations on the way.
Yeah it's really quite bad right now. I kinda can't believe that Apple have put something out with apps like this.
Not even Android Wear is this bad, it's quite unApple like.
Not even Android Wear is this bad, it's quite unApple like.
ITT: "I'm old and things have been slow for my entire life, therefore there is no reasonable expectation for progress, especially for you young, impatient whipper-snappers."
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Actually, I commented but I don't think it is that bad right now.
The best apps will meet some of the constraints and I'm wondering if suspended apps might be the cause of some of the delay. Certainly using the main Apple apps after a restart, everything seems pretty good to me. The only one I have problems with is Dark Skies because of the refresh time.
I don't find any lag significant so it doesn't bother me.
I agree, stuff refreshes pretty quickly on mine... except for the heartbeat takes forever (which isn't really loading, just slow).
It's tired and trite, but the question was whether or not the slowness bugged us as individuals. I answered for myself, as an old fart, not for you--and my answer was done in a tongue-in-cheek way, not as disrespect to younger people.
I am simply at a place in life, as a middle aged person, as a mother with patience ingrained in my being from watching toddlers grow and develop, and as just me with my laid back personality, where the lag does not bother me.
I've seen the development and progress of so many different kinds of technology since the first computers entered the home when I was a teenager. The excitement of seeing a new kind of device enter the market (be it Pebble, Apple Watch, etc) for me outweighs the growing pains.
And lag is not something that bothers me personally but that does not mean I'm universally accepting of every Apple Watch flaw. My personal irritant is when speech to text goes awry, especially when it's my only means to enter data or a message. Even then, these things don't fester in my mind the way some irritants seem to really get under the skin of fellow forum members who seem more expectant of an advanced level of polish in their device experience, even for a first generation device. But that's just me. I'm not telling YOU not to expect progress. Just be aware that it does not happen instantly. Progress is a process.
It's not bothering me. I expected it with a version 1 product and think it will improve with time.
My biggest "issue" is that I want one good News app - that does breaking news and has a Glance view. A lot of people have suggested CNN and I do like the way that their Watch app shows the news - and it has Glances.
The issue is that neither update news on a regular basis - even after getting a "breaking news" alert or email. And it seems the only way to get the Watch App to update is to force close and reopen it. Sort of a pain. (At least the NY Times app has a message on the app that says new stories and when you tap it is updates.)
Other apps, yes they vary from almost instantaneous to several seconds.
The issue is that neither update news on a regular basis - even after getting a "breaking news" alert or email. And it seems the only way to get the Watch App to update is to force close and reopen it. Sort of a pain. (At least the NY Times app has a message on the app that says new stories and when you tap it is updates.)
Other apps, yes they vary from almost instantaneous to several seconds.
It would annoy me but I know developers will have their apps running native very soon. I know developers and I have read articles. Simple apps like weather updates and scores and simple tasks should be 1 second or less... Just my opinion. I have two friends who develop apps and both said they waits until the had their phone to develop and would have theirs submitted by the end of this month.
I don't mind waiting a little bit...
I find the weather app especially annoying. However, if you have Dark Sky, it seems to be much faster.
I'm quite disappointed with the software so far. Had the watch for 4 days. Lost notifications causing re-pairing of watch which is basically setting up the watch from scratch. Lost Bluetooth connection with phone causing me to re pair with the phone again. Apps have crashed on opening multiple times and the lag in app updates defeats the purpose of the idea of quick glances while keeping my phone in my pocket.
On one hand, I expected issues given it is version 1.0 of a newcategory...but I did spend $400, so I will expect them to fix these issues very quickly.
On one hand, I expected issues given it is version 1.0 of a newcategory...but I did spend $400, so I will expect them to fix these issues very quickly.
Why not call Apple? I don't understand your expectations for them to "fix these issues very quickly". In my mind that implies a widespread Apple Watch issue/problem. I'm sure that Apple will attempt to resolve the issues you are having or even replace your watch if necessary. They are just a phone call away