As we know Java is a programming language and as any software it is extremely difficult to be 100% security proof. Oracle bought Sun Microsystems for Java for tons of money years ago... And a little whole ago there were reports of Java security flaw, and Apple stopped bundling Java about two years ago... one wonders why Oracle let it slip... but that's another question... The question for you is, as a Mac user, are you scare of Java or feel it's ok as mentioned above, 'no software is completely safe'? And a closely related question is, where and how could one know how do the majority of Mac users feel about Java? Thank you. ---------- And another thought, Just because fly can come into a room we never open up window for fresh air?