Are you sure your Pilot is actually certified?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by damson34, May 17, 2010.

  1. tabasco70 macrumors 6502

    Mar 10, 2009
    it's a crazy idea- he admits it himself..
    but while its ridiculously dangerous and even selfish to put thousands at risk, flying for 15 years combined with legit training from the airline company probably gave him a lot of experience.
    He was capable of flying planes, and he didn't crash anything. So it's all good. (Mostly)
    The airlines and agencies should step up their game though.
  2. MattSepeta macrumors 65816


    Jul 9, 2009
    375th St. Y
  3. pukifloyd macrumors 6502a


    Jun 25, 2008
  4. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    That is disturbing but then again, aside from obtaining the license itself are people really at risk today? Sure, he was a new "pilot", unskilled at first but after 15 years you'd think now it's just paper, no?
  5. Arran macrumors 601


    Mar 7, 2008
    Atlanta, USA
    I think Gizmodo are being a tad economical with the truth. Like omitting this key fact:

    So it's not like he was a non-pilot who just jumped out the flight simulator and into the cockpit.
  6. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    You mean Gizmodo isn't telling the whole story? Weird!
  7. Mac-Michael macrumors regular

    Jan 13, 2010
    Yes, the fact that you don't have a license doesn't mean you can't do something - it means you haven't paid for the privilege to do it. This guy is alright with me.
  8. Arran macrumors 601


    Mar 7, 2008
    Atlanta, USA
    Yeah, I know. Who'da thunk :rolleyes:
  9. GFLPraxis macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    If you read the whole story, the guy:

    - Had a commercial pilot's license in the past, simply forged one that let him fly the big jets

    - Trained in a flight simulator in 2-3 hour sessions several dozen times over two years.

    Gizmodo simplifies this to:


    Anyway- what the guy did was wrong, and IMO he should be disciplined to prevent others from trying this- but don't fire him. He's apparently been flying for a decade without incident- by all means, he's a good pilot. Keep him in the air!
  10. darkplanets macrumors 6502a

    Nov 6, 2009
    As others have said, he's undoubtedly a good pilot.

    He had his CPL, flew thousands of hours over the years, did hours of simulation training, and is a certified maintenance engineer.

    Who else would you want flying your plane?

    I could care less if he wasn't licensed for commercial craft and his CPL ran out; this guy clearly knows his stuff and his safety record proves it.

    Fine him, slap him on the wrist, and let this guy continue with his career.
  11. jknight8907 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 14, 2004
    Hudson Valley NY
    Not to mention he wasn't the only guy up front on those flights. With a 'real' captain in the left seat, his opportunities to really screw the pooch were slim.
  12. RedTomato macrumors 68040


    Mar 4, 2005
    .. London ..
    With him flying, the airline company's insurance is invalid.

    Similar to letting someone with an expired / disqualified driving licence drive your car.
  13. dmr727 macrumors G3


    Dec 29, 2007
    Southern California
    Yeah, this is the first thing that went through my head too. That's why, at least in the U.S., operators are pretty thorough with their background checks. After 9/11 it all became mandatory anyway.

    As others have mentioned, the safety wasn't a huge deal, but I can understand where the public expects certain baseline requirements to be met when it comes to air safety. So when a pilot is arrogant enough to disregard these requirements, and an air carrier doesn't do its due diligence to make sure these requirements are met - I can see how it might ruffle some feathers.

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