So, on another forum, I told people I use a mac. And a bunch of clueless morons dissed it in a very ignorant fashion. Here are some of the highlights: "http://www.mac-sucks.com/switch_why.php http://nerdynick.wordpress.com/2006/11/05/...-why-macs-suck/ Basically the 2nd post is dead on. Macs are such pieces of **** when it comes to expandability and upgradeability. You shell out 2000 bucks, and then you really have few options at all with them. I feel sorry for the computer lab I helped create. The only thing they can essentially do is upgrade the RAM. In terms of having multiple media sources and all of that ****...it's a lie. Macs are pieces of crap that have been bumped up due to the iPod craze. They're more adapted to life with PCs now than they were 10 years ago admittedly, but they are still gimmicky pieces of crap for people that want things done wayyy too easily on the computer front. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CrQjfgvqJQ " "There is simpler, and then there is overly simple to the point that it becomes so blatantly generic and useless for those that want to do more. Macs are restrictive pieces of crap bought by mostly people who don't even like computers. If you like pretty colors for your desktop and want to pay through the roof for things you can get cheaper, buy a Mac or a Macbook and all that junk. People love Macs because a lot of people are anti-Microsoft, anti-corporation, anti-monopoly and all that junk. So they get behind the "underdog." But I'll take a good PC over a Mac any day. The only thing the Macs have had going for them is the whole iPod culture that's developed and how they've integrated that into their computers to try and fashion some "hip, cool" computer for the masses. If you're really a "tech geek" you will find hundreds of computers that take massive ***** on Macs. Or, you simply have the resources and knowledge to build your own computer. Fact remains: I've worked, owned, and installed them. They suck." "If you really have the coding down well, you can access things that most general technical support doesn't cover. But for the most part, they do feel very restrictive. We used to have so many problems with the Macs at our lab and on a PC it'd be as simple as accessig the registry and pulling out some things, but on a Mac it's a whole other thing." "Whenever I see the stupid ass commercial with the old PC guy and the Mac guy I want to vomit a little bit. All Apple tries to do with their ****** Mac line is try to make them seem "cool" and "hip," almost like an accessory line like the iPod. The iPod is the ONLY thing I've come to like from Apple. And even they are massively overrated because you can find other MP3 players for great prices that are actually even more user friendly (no iTunes to deal with). It's just that they've cornered the MP3 player market, much like how PCs cornered the home computer market, and so everything runs compatible to the iPod. The whole Apple Mac "we're media friendly and cool" thing is a fraud. They'd have you think that they invented digital media on computers, but they didn't. They just went with one aspect of what every PC already had. So my laptop isn't as thin as a paper, doesn't come in 5000 different colors, and doesn't look "sleek." Like I could give a rat's ass. I bought it for half of what a Mac costs and I can do so much more software wise. If all you do is surf the web, listen to music/play DVDs, and run some minor software stuff (website designing for example), and you shelled out over 1500 grand for a Mac then you just ripped yourself off. If you really want a high end PC and you are a "tech geek" you find the parts yourself, build your own thing, save thousands of dollars, and upgrade easily and constantly. And honestly, if my computer is outdated and I shelled out 2,000 bucks on the latest Mac the last thing I want to do is shell out another 2 grand on another Mac 3-4 years later. Nobody just buys another 2,000 dollar computer every few years. Not the "average" consumer that doesn't even know what the hell a CPU is. Learn the market. Also Matt, you're right on. One of the main reasons you see a ton of users of Macs is because they hand out their computers really really cheapily to schools and educational programs. Nobody is going to resist a free computer. It comes down to this. You want a computer with a nice processor, 2.5 ghz speed, 120+ gb of hard drive space, and over a gig of RAM. Why the **** would you pay the asstastic load that you would on a Mac with those kinds of specs when you could get a PC desktop or laptop for a fraction of the cost of the Mac and with identical or better performance? Because the Mac looks cooooooooooool? For ****'s sake. Only retards choose the Mac. **** the Mac. **** Apple up its overrated ass. I'd like to take a massive **** on Steve Jobs. And again about this "simple" debate. Obviously v-ault, you have no clue what I mean by that. I don't mean that simple isn't good. I meant that there are things you want to do on a Mac that you can't because the whole thing is designed for people who don't know how to use computers. The average person wants to know how to open programs, type on Word, and surf the web. More advanced users want to do more and the Mac's "simple" design becomes a headache when it comes to those things. Especially when it comes to troubleshooting system issues and maintaining the thing." "Hit the nail on the head. Like I said...just way too restrictive. If you have any kind of advanced computer experience then a Mac almost feels like an insult to you. They'e supposedly "simple" and all of that and user friendly, but they're TOO much like that. And then when something goes wrong with them, it's hell and high waters to try and fix the problem because the stupid Mac doesn't let you do anything to it." "Dude, face it - Macs are for people who aren't interested in having computers... but are more interested in a pretty looking desk ornamant... I once took an iMAC and grabbed it by the handle and threw it out a window... most satisfying thing EVAR..." "How long did it even take the Mac to get together with Intel? And how much MORE money are you paying for that processor on a desk ornament like the Mac than you would be on a normal PC? I mean jeez...the PC has had the intel processor and everything else from the get go. And by the time the PC gets on a new chipset from Intel, the Mac will still be stuck on its own intel that doesn't do half of the things. The only time I've ever seen a Mac used anywhere is when the people using them are computer illiterate. Like, my old, annoying bosses who wanted me to write 50 page instruction manuals on how to open a CD program on the Mac used those things. They really suck." "My point remains: Apple took years to adapt to a chipset that the PC had been on for years and years and years. On top of that, it's the Mac flavor of the Intel.... what good is a great processor when half the user base doesn't know an Intel from a keyboard? The whole "we have intel" thing is such a gimmick by Mac. They cater to computer illiterate users (not saying you are one, but in general, the Mac base is very computer illiterate), yet use the Intel chip as advertisement. I bet you MOST Mac users don't even know what the Intel does for their computer. And that is why I hate Mac. If you're really into computers you wuoldn't get one because you wouldn't need to be babystepped through every little thing." "There is simpler, and then there is overly simple to the point that it becomes so blatantly generic and useless for those that want to do more. Macs are restrictive pieces of crap bought by mostly people who don't even like computers. If you like pretty colors for your desktop and want to pay through the roof for things you can get cheaper, buy a Mac or a Macbook and all that junk. People love Macs because a lot of people are anti-Microsoft, anti-corporation, anti-monopoly and all that junk. So they get behind the "underdog." But I'll take a good PC over a Mac any day. The only thing the Macs have had going for them is the whole iPod culture that's developed and how they've integrated that into their computers to try and fashion some "hip, cool" computer for the masses. If you're really a "tech geek" you will find hundreds of computers that take massive ***** on Macs. Or, you simply have the resources and knowledge to build your own computer. Fact remains: I've worked, owned, and installed them. They suck. " If you guys want to rip them apart, go click here.