Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
What I'd like to know from someone versed in ARM's arena is where they see weakness in ARM's approach to licensing and where they see potential.
There's probably people around here that are a few rings closer to ARM than I am, but my experience has been that what has made ARM great is their licensing model. PowerPC has been successful because it's not single sourced. ARM took that concept a lot further-- the ARM architecture can be bought in chip form from dozens of providers, it can be integrated into custom silicon, or for the right price you can actually license the architecture and modify it to your hearts content. I don't see any weaknesses in the model, and I think their market position supports that. They've succeeded in becoming a standard, and taking a tariff on each implementation.

The question I'm less clear on is what's best for Apple. Defensively, it prevents someone else from nabbing a key vendor. Offensively it does provide some capability to muck with the competition, but I tend to agree with those who don't think Apple would. Technically it would give them a head start on new designs, and give them control over the teams direction (perhaps pulling the focus away from these ever higher performance variants and focussing on ultra-portable, for example).

The other possibility is that ARM has some key patents in the handset space that Apple wants the ability to assert. I haven't heard mention of this though...
Also, likely interpreted as: "We're a viable company of considerable value - we're not a 'cheap date, so low-ball offers are out of the question.
Or, "I like my job, I like running a company, I don't want a new boss."

The non-statement could mean any number of things depending on the personality...

I agree with cmaier-- what's interesting is that it's not a denial.
 
The reason for Apple to buy them now is that someone floated the idea that Apple might buy them AND the idea that if Apple bought ARM, they could select who they supplied chips to. That would go for anyone else who bought ARM as well... And it's not like Apple doesn't have the cash to pull it off...

I think it makes sense... AMD was crazy like a fox on its buy of ATI...
 
Buying AMD makes less sense IMO. Sure they get ATI, but they also get AMD... I don't think that makes up for it... :D

Buying ARM at least has a larger bearing on their current products, those being the iPad, iPhone and iPods...
 
I can't believe that some of you would think that Apple could but ARM for 8 billion and then not licenses it. They would be bankrupt in a years time. They can't and will not tie up that much capitol just to pigeonhole the industry. Apple isn't a chip maker, I sure they've figured that out.
 
I can't believe that some of you would think that Apple could but ARM for 8 billion and then not licenses it. They would be bankrupt in a years time. They can't and will not tie up that much capitol just to pigeonhole the industry. Apple isn't a chip maker, I sure they've figured that out.

Neither is ARM.
 
all this talk about the SEC, I mean they wouldn't do anything they are to busy watching porn 8 hours a day...

I posted that to an online board I frequent earlier today.

Sadly, there was less uproar over the fact that government employees did this than the fact that one of the accounts in the article was female :rolleyes:

...

Back to the topic at hand, the ARM CEO isn't going to say "We're screwed, Apple better buy us or we ARE DONE FOR!"... it'd kill the stock price, and make him look incompetent.
 
Back to the topic at hand, the ARM CEO isn't going to say "We're screwed, Apple better buy us or we ARE DONE FOR!"... it'd kill the stock price, and make him look incompetent.

Well, he also wouldn't say it because it isn't true. Nonetheless, nothing he said is a denial of talks between Apple and ARM, and I would be surprised if Apple doesn't make a move here.
 
Well, he also wouldn't say it because it isn't true. Nonetheless, nothing he said is a denial of talks between Apple and ARM, and I would be surprised if Apple doesn't make a move here.

I have to think that ARM knows Intel's not going to sit back and let them have the market uncontested. Atom is just the opening Intel salvo in a war for mobile devices that's about to get intense.
 
The other side of the coin

IMHO, simply looking at the mobile device market as being the only thing affected potentially affected by this. ARM makes its way into a much broader range of embedded products. Speaking as someone who actually does develop ARM-based embedded products, this could be a really good thing. The bulk of my time has been spent on the herculean effort it takes to build the foundation before you ever start working on an application. So many flavors of Linux, so many flavors of development tools, three distinct desktop environments to work in. It's just crazy. Dealing with Linux make me appreciate all the work Apple does to insulate developers from the hard core crap under the Mac OS and XCode. IMHO, If Apple applies that mindset to ARM development, life would be much better.
 
IMHO, simply looking at the mobile device market as being the only thing affected potentially affected by this. ARM makes its way into a much broader range of embedded products. Speaking as someone who actually does develop ARM-based embedded products, this could be a really good thing. The bulk of my time has been spent on the herculean effort it takes to build the foundation before you ever start working on an application. So many flavors of Linux, so many flavors of development tools, three distinct desktop environments to work in. It's just crazy. Dealing with Linux make me appreciate all the work Apple does to insulate developers from the hard core crap under the Mac OS and XCode. IMHO, If Apple applies that mindset to ARM development, life would be much better.

Thank you RogueWarrior65. The question that should be on our minds at some level is how can an Apple acquisition of ARM improve life for developers. Today's Apple is lightyears beyond the Apple of the late 90 with regard to development tools and access.

If Apple were to buy ARM I wouldn't be surprised to see them implement tool to help automate the design process for ARM licensees.
 
If Apple were to buy ARM I wouldn't be surprised to see them implement tool to help automate the design process for ARM licensees.

I would be entirely shocked. EDA tools is a very mature industry and there are plenty of tools that provide this sort of automation. ARM already provides the necessary plugins into the relevant commercial tools.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.