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OnceUGoMac said:
Like the BBC? Are you serious? You do know that BBC is funded by the government and not by advertising right? That said, Fox's responsibility is to its advertisers, not to a handful of people that watch the show (me being one of them).

Wrong. The BBC is funded by licence-payers, not by government. Get your facts right before blurting out your condescending tripe... at least I live in the UK and have some idea of what I'm talking about.
 
It's too bad the American general public is too stupid to get the jokes on Arrested Development. It's a great show. Fox didn't even give it a chance, they're too busy promoting Super Nanny or some other low class show that Americans eat up.
 
rickvanr said:
It's too bad the American general public is too stupid to get the jokes on Arrested Development. It's a great show. Fox didn't even give it a chance, they're too busy promoting Super Nanny or some other low class show that Americans eat up.
Why is this now a discrimination thing? :confused:
 
rickvanr said:
It isn't. The majority of people aren't smart.
Then why must you single out Americans? I'm sure Fox considered demographics from all locations the show aired. If it was big outside America (which I doubt) and not in America, then Fox may have treated the situation differently.
 
grapes911 said:
Then why must you single out Americans? I'm sure Fox considered demographics from all locations the show aired. If it was big outside America (which I doubt) and not in America, then Fox may have treated the situation differently.

Yeahhhhh... No, because shows from American networks often wait to air shows in Europe/ Australia until after the season is done in the USA and Canada. Canada doesn't have the population for the American networks to even give care about.
 
The problem is, Fox is doing everything they can to get AD to fail. There has been NO MARKETING for a show with 5 emmys and numerious other awards. Fans fought for a third season, and they got it, but shows aired speratically due to the world series, and the ones that did air went up against Monday night football, a show with already low ratings is doomed against that.

The sad part is someone told me that fox has a clause in their contract with shows that no other network can pick up their cancelled shows for 10 years, which makes AD sol, unless they move it to FX.
 
My theory is that Nielson families, the ones who actually count as ratings, are stupid. You could have millions of people watching a show every week, but if not enough people with tracking systems hooked up their TVs are watching the show, it doesn't count. That's how brilliant stuff that a lot of people watch gets canceled and how low-brow tripe goes on season after season. Look at who they are catering too. Doesn't help when a show is too expensive (re: Farscape, FireFly) or too quirky (WonderFalls, Andy Richter Controls The Universe) or just too good (Undeclared, My So-Called Life) and people just don't get it.

And people wonder why there's never anything good on. There's a glut of crap out there all clamoring for our attention (well, our money, via ad revenue as far as TV is concerned), but the good stuff is always hard to find. Remember this the next time you have to re-run some stupid reality show because you have nothing else Fox. And remember this the next time you complain that no one's watching your movies or buying your CDs entertainment industry. :rolleyes:
 
solvs said:
My theory is that Nielson families, the ones who actually count as ratings, are stupid. You could have millions of people watching a show every week, but if not enough people with tracking systems hooked up their TVs are watching the show, it doesn't count.
While many people agree with you, from a statical point of view, it is fairly accurate. I can't find any reports of why this is, but this article explains why polling only 1000 people is fairly accurate on representing the view all of Americas (assuming the poll is done correctly). I know it is not exactly the same, but it is a very similar idea.
 
Laslo Panaflex said:
The problem is, Fox is doing everything they can to get AD to fail. There has been NO MARKETING for a show with 5 emmys and numerous other awards.
I agree -- and along those lines, you might like to see David Cross' rant about this problem on the "Arrested Development" Season 2 DVDs. It's at the end of the "Bloopers" special feature. I'm a little surprised it made it on to the DVD, but it's spot-on. ;)

Laslo Panaflex said:
The sad part is someone told me that fox has a clause in their contract with shows that no other network can pick up their cancelled shows for 10 years, which makes AD sol, unless they move it to FX.
I thought I'd read something somewhere that said that FOX has given Mitch Hurwitz permission to shop the show around to other networks. I don't know if that was merely rumor or a fact, though.
 
JesseJames said:
Fox axes shows so fast it makes my head spin.
Those network executives at Fox are on a different kind of hair trigger.
I don't know what gives.
So how long should a network wait to see if the show gets ratings?
 
JesseJames said:
Fox axes shows so fast it makes my head spin.
Those network executives at Fox are on a different kind of hair trigger.
I don't know what gives.

I completely agree, along with axing AD, it appears they also canceling the second half hour which is filled by Kitchen Confidential, which isn't as clever as AD, but it's quite funny in it's own right.
 
At the risk of sounding like a "dumb american" I would rather see "Futurama" come back than "Arrested Develpement". I never got that show, and after reading these posts maybe it's because of my nationality. I loved Futurama though...sooo funny. I like comedy that grabs me right away...Arrested Developement didn't. But thats just me.
 
Blue Velvet said:
Wrong. The BBC is funded by licence-payers, not by government. Get your facts right before blurting out your condescending tripe... at least I live in the UK and have some idea of what I'm talking about.

Perhaps I mis-spoke.BBC is funded by licensed fees (how is this not a taxation) from when you buy a t.v. set. Who's responsible for the licenses? That said, who runs the BBC? According to Wikipedia:

"It is an autonomous corporation run by a board of governors appointed by the government for a term of four years (formerly five years). This is soon to be changed to a BBC trust. Management of the organisation is in the hands of a Director-General appointed by the governors. Its domestic programming and broadcasts are funded by levying television licence fees upon the owners of television sets."

The point is that the BBC isn't funded by advertising, which you dismissed from my previous post. Therefore, unlike Fox the BBC isn't responsible to its advertisers. The cost of the adverts are dictated by ratings. Do you disagree? I fail to see your point in comparing the BBC to Fox, which are two different models. Apologies if I sounded smarmy from my OP, but I am. :)
 
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