Article on Breaking up with Apple

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by RumorConsumer, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. pat500000 macrumors 604

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  2. r.harris1 macrumors 6502a

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    Definitely sounds like Apple isn't really the right fit for him and he may be happier with another machine. Definitely, if he wants today to be just like yesterday, Apple is not the company he should be investing money into as they may not focus on that aspect of things (they never really have, as he himself pointed out in a roundabout way). I'd suggest though that he may want to avoid the surface pro since it doesn't have user expandable RAM, which was one of his concerns (iFixit score of 2). Maybe the Dell he is referring to does (not clear which it was). He may want to quickly get a high end phone from another manufacturer since rumors have it that Samsung at least may toss the head phone jack on at least one of their models. Other Android competitors may certainly retain it as a differentiator for a while. Also, he may want to purchase another high end laptop elsewhere fairly quickly as I suppose it is potentially true that others may move to the USB C (if not TB 3) connection too since it is very versatile, though perhaps some manufacturers will keep some of the legacy stuff.
     
  3. Tech198 macrumors G4

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    match made in heaven.... lol , i've not heard "breakup's" over technology before..
     
  4. kazmac macrumors 601

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    I am going through the break up now. Once I get my media transferred to Android & Windows, I am gone. I can relate to that rant, but I have done all my wailing and am simply exorcising Apple out of my life now.

    The phone transition is largely painless - some workarounds in Android but that is okay. Am absolutely delighted I can just use my phone and not worry about it running properly.
     
  5. Jessica Lares macrumors G3

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    I sympathize with them, but we are now five years into this trend (their last machine was a 2012). I did not want a soldered machine then, I do not want one now (still bought one, and the 2015 because I don't want to deal with dongles either). But you're either paying for the extra hardware, or you're having to learn the Windows/Linux way, and in their case they have to now pay an Office subscription. The Surface Book they're considering also has soldered RAM too.

    In five years time USB-C is going to be the norm. It is just too new for the other manufacturers to implement them now, especially when everything surrounding these machines in the store is still USB 2/3.

    Leaving the iPhone because of the lack of a headphone port is an excuse. Just buy the 6S model.
     
  6. maflynn Moderator

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    I found the article to resonate with me.
    I think his "credentials" as a mac fan, are clear, given what he wrote
    Yet, his complaints that the company has focused too much on thinness at the expensive other attributes do make sense. I'm not here bashing apple, but rather pointing out that we have a person who eloquently posted how the changes apple has been focusing on left him behind.

    I will say that this seems to be a trend, i.e., people saying similar things here at Macrumors, or blogs and now at major sites like the huffingtonpost.
     
  7. curtvaughan macrumors regular

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    My first dalliance with Apple was with the Apple II in the early 80s, then didn't have much to do with the company while my job took me through PDP 11s, Cyber 70s, Cray X/MPs, Sun OS, VAXs running both BSD Unix and VMS, DEC Alphas running VMS, DEC Unix, and Windows NT, and finally Windows Servers until I retired 10 years ago. Shortly before I retired I invested in a MBP (1,1), the first of the Intel generation of Macs. It's a sweet machine which is still running OSX Snow Leopard double booted to Linux Mint. I have purchased two iMacs for my home since retirement and have been pleased with both. I have also switched from Android (back in 2012 or so) to an iPhone 5 and later a 6 plus. I have been pleased with both. HOWEVER, my iMac is now nearly 3 years old, my iPhone 6 plus is 2 years old, and my old MBP is well - 11 years old. All three need updates, and nothing Apple has put forth this last year is appealing technologically, financially, or practically. I recently purchased an LG V20 smartphone (and love it) with a REPLACEABLE battery, a headphone jack, 4 GB of RAM, 4 DAC converters for sound, and 64 GB of storage; I purchased an HP OMEN laptop with 16 GB of RAM, a 128 GB SSD and a 2 TB HDD for $1200, which now runs 3 flavors of Linux booting off the SSD, with home directories on the HDD; and I'm seriously needing to update my old iMac, not encouraged by what's available, especially for the price. I will likely bite the bullet and get a new iMac sometime this year, as my wife is an Apple desktop convert, but I'm not sure about getting a new iPhone or a new MBP. I have mostly given up on Apple laptops, but still have hope for the new generations of iPhones. We'll see.

    I hope Apple can turn around a.s.a.p., as I miss their traditionally fine product lines.
     
  8. pr0230 Suspended

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    I think EVERYONE at THIS forum (apple) is Disappointed and I would go as far as being ANGRY with apple and looking for an alternative to disconnect with apple... Unfortunately IS the grass greener with MicroSoft, or Google...

    My son and I have been waiting for something WORTH upgrading to, for years, only to be disappointed with the latest version. I purposely did NOT write NEW as nothing apple has come out with recently is NEW...

    To note the latest and best iPhone is a iPhone 6 Version 3... and next year will be V4
    The retina display is How many years OLD... My iPad4 has retina display...
    A mackbook PRO should Not be limited to 16gb, AND soldered in....
    How about a replaceable battery in every phone, or removable screen on EVERY mac laptop...

    The list is endless, we need a Donald Trump to DRAIN the apple swamp!!!
     
  9. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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    It was not a bad post, but two things got to me:

    Everyone wants to call them self a "Pro", and believes that they are the only type of "Pro". This undermines their credibility, when I work as an "IT Pro" and can do my job just fine on the machine I have. (Outside of the poor battery).

    He used the tired phrase "Steve rolling in his grave". It's time for people to get over that.
     
  10. maflynn Moderator

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    Agreed, not only is the term over used, its done so myopically. I think its safe to use that many people use a laptop for specific needs and it doesn't have to be qualified.

    Yeah, the Steve comment (and I'm just as guilty) is over used. He's gone and there's nothing we can do about that.
     
  11. an-other macrumors regular

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    This article left me cold, and ended up as a rant in my opinion. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean Mr Jobs would've agreed with you. Please let the man rest in peace.

    The MBP has a lot of meaning to a lot of folk. I'll agree Apple's transitions to new technologies is abrupt, however that's a choice. My new MBP replaces a 2010 MBP that still met about 70% of my needs. I've had 2.5 corporate laptop replacements over the same time span. I didn't purchase one thunderbolt cable/accessory for the 2010 machine excluding monitor.

    I'm sure thinness, durability and warranty support come into play with fused circuit boards for memory and hard drives. I can't imagine how many botched upgrades walk into the apple store. I also tend to think forced obsolescence is part of it, too. As noted above I could've continued with my 2010 MBP. I wanted a new machine, and I knew a 2nd circuit board replacement would be out of warranty. (2010 were the first with "green" soldering, and have durability issues.) I do know as time continued to move on, I could not take advantage of new technologies on the 2010 MBP. Apple doesn't look backward too far.

    Touch ID on the iPhone is awesome to me. I like things secure, and I don't like typing passwords.

    The laptop toolbar? Had no feeling for it one way or the other. Having it, I see it's value. I find I don't go to program menus as much, I love love love touch id for not having to enter system passwords to change settings, and see online Apple Pay as a nice convenience. I'm a big fan of not giving my credit card info to a vendor. How many times have you looked at the function keys and wondered why they're there? Now, that real estate is productive. Truth be told the writer lost all credibility with me criticising something I dig without ever using it.

    I do miss the glowing Apple on the side. Diskless software install is a bit of a hassle if I'm not in my office.

    When all is said and done, I know there are mac users this machine will alienate. It will bring some into the fold, too. What I do appreciate is Apple is building their vision of what they view the product should be (and has the strength in reason to let the marketplace decide. if it's the correct call. ) But that's me. I 'd rather have something focused that does things exceptionally versus something that does a lot of things good.

    There are many other great options out there if the MBP isn't for you.
     

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