Assembled in US

metsjetsfan

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Doea assembled in US mean they just put the last screw in the US or do you think substantial work is done. Still foxconn tho right?
 
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spunkgarLEWII

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The parts are still made in China, yes... but the product is assembled here.. FoxConn still has a role in this.

Doea assembled in US mean they just out the last screw in the US or do you think substantial work is done. Still foxconn tho right?
 

pgiguere1

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The parts are still made in China, yes... but the product is assembled here.. FoxConn still has a role in this.
Define "parts". A lot of internal components are made in countries that are neither China or US. Do you mean the case, motherboard and fans? Do you know for sure they'll be made in China before being assembled in the US?

I think the main reason they use the term "assembled" rather than "made" in the US is because of third-party components not made in the US. I don't think Apple could call the Mac Pro "Made in USA" with third-party components like CPU, RAM, SSD and GPU all made in other countries, regardless of whether the case and such are being made in the US or not.

I remember reading Foxconn now has plants in the US, so I wouldn't be suprised if all that was previously made by Foxconn in China was now being made by Foxconn in the US.
 

metsjetsfan

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Define "parts". A lot of internal components are made in countries that are neither China or US. Do you mean the case, motherboard and fans? Do you know for sure they'll be made in China before being assembled in the US?

I think the main reason they use the term "assembled" rather than "made" in the US is because of third-party components not made in the US. I don't think Apple could call the Mac Pro "Made in USA" with third-party components like CPU, RAM, SSD and GPU all made in other countries, regardless of whether the case and such are being made in the US or not.

I remember reading Foxconn now has plants in the US, so I wouldn't be suprised if all that was previously made by Foxconn in China was now being made by Foxconn in the US.
Yeah, i hope it's just not something like putting the casing itself on is the 'assembled' part. I wonder how many jobs it creates. If it's a lot it will be publicized otherwise prob kept quiet. But yes Foxconn and some other foreign companies do have US facilities, so it will probably be them teploying. They probably are still the experts on the machining and scaling
 

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I think the main reason they use the term "assembled" rather than "made" in the US is because of third-party components not made in the US. I don't think Apple could call the Mac Pro "Made in USA" with third-party components like CPU, RAM, SSD and GPU all made in other countries, regardless of whether the case and such are being made in the US or not.
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The CPU is probably made in the US. The GPU is also likely to made in the US. The graphics boards could be US made or made elsewhere. But yeah, too many parts are not US made so it can't be called Made in the USA.

Yeah, i hope it's just not something like putting the casing itself on is the 'assembled' part. I wonder how many jobs it creates. If it's a lot it will be publicized otherwise prob kept quiet. But yes Foxconn and some other foreign companies do have US facilities, so it will probably be them teploying. They probably are still the experts on the machining and scaling
The keynote yesterday listed several states that parts were coming from. So it's more than just the finally assembly being done in the US.
 

jasonvp

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The CPU is probably made in the US.
Unless Intel has shifted gears significantly, expect the CPUs destined for the states to come out of the states, stop in Malaysia or Costa Rica for "assembly and testing" (whatever that means), and then back to the US.
 

Bear

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Unless Intel has shifted gears significantly, expect the CPUs destined for the states to come out of the states, stop in Malaysia or Costa Rica for "assembly and testing" (whatever that means), and then back to the US.
Ahh I hadn't realized that, but it still starts with a US part. It would be interesting to see a full breakdown of the parts in the new MacPro and see where everything originates and how many stops (and where it stops) a part has on its way to the final assembly in the US.
 

CaptHenryMorgan

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It's a lot cheaper to ship components to the US and assemble them here than to assemble them abroad and ship the whole product here. Most car companies do this. Toyota and Mercedes Benz both assemble certain lines of cars in plants in Ohio and Alabama. Plus, the Mac Pro has huge margins, so if nothing else, it's good PR for Apple.
 

prvt.donut

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It's a lot cheaper to ship components to the US and assemble them here than to assemble them abroad and ship the whole product here. Most car companies do this. Toyota and Mercedes Benz both assemble certain lines of cars in plants in Ohio and Alabama. Plus, the Mac Pro has huge margins, so if nothing else, it's good PR for Apple.
Car companies do it to avoid paying extra import tariffs and also to mitigate the whole US fettish with having to have things made in the US so that you feel like you still actually make stuff.
 

thedarkhorse

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I imagine most anything with silicon is made overseas but the chasis & heatsink could be USA made, and obviously all assembled in USA.
 

Bear

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I imagine most anything with silicon is made overseas but the chasis & heatsink could be USA made, and obviously all assembled in USA.
Really? Do you know how many chip fabrication facilities there are in the US? The processors for most of the iOS devices have been made in the US.
 

ActionableMango

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Car companies do it to avoid paying extra import tariffs and also to mitigate the whole US fettish with having to have things made in the US so that you feel like you still actually make stuff.
And to avoid currency exchange issues. And, in some rare cases, for cheaper labor.