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mikea said:
As with the iMac, the iBook will continue to be the moniker Apple's entry/mid-level consumer laptop.

So kindly explain Steve Jobs statement that all macs would have MAC in the name. (hint: iBook does not have MAC in the name)
 
It seems that the graphics card is how Apple is choosing to distinguish its low end from its high.

But really, shouldn't there be a MacMiniBook with the integrated graphics cards and an iMacBook without...
 
Perhaps now would be the time to remind everyone that Apple has yet to announce the Graphics Card for the iBook replacement, so any talk of Integrated Graphics is pure speculation.

(I think it will come with IG, but thats just a guess).
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Another thing is that ATI's integrated GPUs outperform Intel's by a significant margin, so we aren't even getting the best integrated GPU out there. :(
Read the article again - the ATI isn't "integrated", it is "embedded".

Big difference, it's an extra chip that costs extra money and needs extra space on the mobo and extra power.

The Intel GMA950 is part of the northbridge chip. No extra chips, no extra board real estate....
 
It'd still be called an iBook

Come on, I've been thinking this for a long time, and the folks over at MOSR has also confirmed this.

The new iBook will still be an "iBook", not simply "MacBook". There won't be a "MacBook" any more than there'd be a desktop simply called the "Mac".

Look at the new Intel Macs, see the iMac? It's still the "iMac", not "Mac".
Similarly, the iBook will remain the "iBook".

As for other MacBooks... maybe the MacBook Thin...
 
I've been saying from day one that Apple simply won't be getting a purchase from me at all if they don't release a pro 12"/13" laptop. Then, I saw the specs on this Asus machine and saw the 2.16GHz Core Duo, so I thought that maybe Apple could, in fact, simply make the MacBook have a much larger range than the iBook did, and replace the small PowerBook with a high-end MacBook. However, integrated graphics, while arguably adequate and now expected for consumer-level laptops (I still don't like the idea, but I can't really blame Apple for wanting to save money), are simply not an option for a pro machine. So basically, if Apple releases the MacBook without a processor cap, we know there will be no small pro machine, and therefore no small machine with dedicated graphics (unless it's a configurable option). That would mean no Apple laptop purchase for me (and me sticking to linux on the laptop, as annoying as the setup can be for that).

Come on Apple! Don't let me down! You want ~$2500+ of my hard-earned cash, don't you?
 
I will seriously consider upgrading from my 12" PB to a MB when it becomes available, regardless of whether or not it has a dedicated graphics processor. I was concerned about the integrated graphics technology used in the mini making its way into the MB, but if it outperforms the GeForce 5200 in my PowerBook, then it can't be a bad thing, right? That's the way I see it.

As much as I like the 12", I really hate the high surface temperatures and the fan running constantly. I always regretted replacing my 14" iBook G4 with my current 12" PB and have been considering switching back for the past year. So once the MB is available, I might just go for it.
 
mikea said:
There is no "MacBook" any more than there is, or ever will be, a desktop model called simply the "Mac." There is currently a MacBook Pro, just as the PowerMac will eventually become the "Mac Pro" if Apple decides to follow through with that naming scheme as it most likely will. As with the iMac, the iBook will continue to be the moniker Apple's entry/mid-level consumer laptop.

Other, new portable Macs have long been rumored to join the 'Book family, probably under the name MacBook Thin for an ultraportable mid-range model. It is possible that the Thin could ship alongside the new iBooks, but the iBooks name is not going away and those who simply call it the "MacBook" are getting confused by the ever-present "Game of Telephone effect". They may want to check their sources before they continue confusing the community by using that name.

Hey that's a direct copy and paste from MOSR, at least quote where you got it man.
 
netdog said:
You doubt this based on what?

Does the Mini Core Solo do 1080i? That would give us the answer -- if there is even going to be a Core Solo MacBook. Anyway, if somebody with a Core Solo Mini could post as to whether their computer can do 1080, that should allow us to make informed judgements about the capabilities of a MacBook solo with integrated 950 graphics.

Now there is a name we might see. The MacBook Solo and the MacBook Duo. I don't like it, but I could see it.

Ive read the mini duo doing 1080p on this forum, but its not like it matters, most people dont have anything capable of watching 1080p on. Id imagine the mini solo could do 720p no problem but I doubt 1080p would be watchable on it.

The people complaining about not being able to play the latest games on their mackbook are out of touch. Computer gaming is slowly dying with the introduction of $400 consoles that have graphics that kill the graphics of most computers. I used to love computer gaming, but see no reason to buy a computer capable of it now, I'll just save $600 and buy a 360, a couple of games, and hook it up to my toshiba 56" 1080p tv with 6.1 surround, that setup kills any computer I could comeup with. I'll buy Call of Duty for my macbook(to play in between classes at schoo and on the road), itll play fine, it plays on my 1.6ghz, 256mb of ram, integrated graphics compaq, so it should be killer on a core duo, iig, 1gb macbook.
 
rhsgolfer33 said:
Computer gaming is slowly dying with the introduction of $400 consoles that have graphics that kill the graphics of most computers.

Most? Maybe last year ;)
 
Sorry to go on about the graphics :)

But imo the price you pay for the new system, like say E1000.-, i expect that i can play my games running normal.
I mean just for playing a game isnt so much asking for? im the gameplay over graphics type, im happy as is works. For real gaming i take my desktop.
So i hope anyone can confirm this will atleast work (with specs so far)

---talking about gaming as an extra, dont tell me why apple;)
 
This Sucks

This speculation is stupid. I heard new iBooks at MWSF, nothing happened; i heard new iBooks on the 30th anniversary...nothing!!! So frankly i don't give a rats ass when they come out. I love Apple and will never use a PC again but this waiting is killing me. I check this site, among others, to see the latest info, but have been fed nothing but BS for months. Steve just give me the new iBooks/Macbook damnit!! I am sick of waiting
 
Airforce said:
Most? Maybe last year ;)

Well an $8000 quad sli with GeForce 7900's might be better, but its also 20 times more expensive;) . You cant find a computer anywhere near the price range of a 360 thatll play games nearly as well.
 
rhsgolfer33 said:
Well an $8000 quad sli with GeForce 7900's might be better, but its also 20 times more expensive;) . You cant find a computer anywhere near the price range of a 360 thatll play games nearly as well.

$500-$600 will get you a computer that will beat the 360 in resolution, graphics, and be a lot more useful than just gaming ;)
 
King Elessar said:
The new iBook will still be an "iBook", not simply "MacBook". There won't be a "MacBook" any more than there'd be a desktop simply called the "Mac".

As I said to an earlier poster, if that's the case then explain SJ's comment that all macs will have MAC in the name?

And MOSR is a joke, whenever they predict something it's more likely that the opposite will be the truth.

AnimeUnrivaledSo basically said:
What "pro" apps do you plan on running on a 13" laptop that require heavy duty 3d accelertation?
 
why dont people just buy a laptop to have a mobile computer and if you want some hoarsepower buy a friggin' desktop w/ like a 23" screen with some speakers and a nice chair ... intel graphics? who cares as long as it looks good and the keeps price low along with core duo NO solo, im sold, no?
 
They're not getting my cash either!

AnimeUnrivaled said:
I've been saying from day one that Apple simply won't be getting a purchase from me at all if they don't release a pro 12"/13" laptop. Then, I saw the specs on this Asus machine and saw the 2.16GHz Core Duo, so I thought that maybe Apple could, in fact, simply make the MacBook have a much larger range than the iBook did, and replace the small PowerBook with a high-end MacBook. However, integrated graphics, while arguably adequate and now expected for consumer-level laptops (I still don't like the idea, but I can't really blame Apple for wanting to save money), are simply not an option for a pro machine. So basically, if Apple releases the MacBook without a processor cap, we know there will be no small pro machine, and therefore no small machine with dedicated graphics (unless it's a configurable option). That would mean no Apple laptop purchase for me (and me sticking to linux on the laptop, as annoying as the setup can be for that).

Come on Apple! Don't let me down! You want ~$2500+ of my hard-earned cash, don't you?

I agree, I want a new 12" PowerBook with a *real* graphics card, not some wannabe. It would be surprising, but not unbelievable if Apple did merge the 12" PB into the iBook replacement line, but what about Pro's who want to run Motion, After Effects or even Aperture? Integrated graphics is not a solution. Even Sony do a Dual Core with real graphics, so Apple will no doubt at least do it as an option, or really see a lot of the compact PowerBook/pro trade go elsewhere. And no, they won't get my money either!:p
 
mutantteenager said:
I agree, I want a new 12" PowerBook with a *real* graphics card, not some wannabe. It would be surprising, but not unbelievable if Apple did merge the 12" PB into the iBook replacement line, but what about Pro's who want to run Motion, After Effects or even Aperture? Integrated graphics is not a solution. Even Sony do a Dual Core with real graphics, so Apple will no doubt at least do it as an option, or really see a lot of the compact PowerBook/pro trade go elsewhere. And no, they won't get my money either!:p

You're really itching to run an app like Motion on a 13" (or smaller!) laptop?
 
mutantteenager said:
Even Sony do a Dual Core with real graphics, so Apple will no doubt at least do it as an option, or really see a lot of the compact PowerBook/pro trade go elsewhere. And no, they won't get my money either!:p

That sony is also almost as expensive or more expensive than the Macbook Pro for the upper end models. It starts at $1449 with a core solo, 512mb of ram, a 40gb hd, combo drive, and no camera. When you up it to 1.66ghz core duo, 60gb hd, and camera its $1639(thats a pretty low end model and you have to costomize it on sonys site to get one for that price). So, Apple's 12" powerbook replacement *should* have a dedicated card, but I wouldnt be to surprised if it doesnt, especially if it stays at the current 12" powerbook price of $1499.
 
AnimeUnrivaled said:
Come on Apple! Don't let me down! You want ~$2500+ of my hard-earned cash, don't you?

Considering Apple has to machine new tools for the new lines and commit to buy millions of units from the ODMs, I can very safely say that your $2500 doesn't even matter in the slightest if Apple feels that it is not commercially viable (aka doesn't sell in the millions)
 
excalibur313 said:
Asus makes some of the highest quality motherboards one can buy. When I built my computer a while back I used them and I was really impressed with their performance.

they (asus) actually makes THE highest quality motherboards. ;)
used to work with that stuff, could oc an asus and it would run.
all other crap just gave in. as for their laptops I do not know.


now the real question is, will it have a right-click mouse?
 
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