But that's just it - people generally ARE stupid (not meant as an insult and I include myself in that) and the companies know that people don't understand what LTA, LTA-A, UMTS, HSPA, GSM etc. etc. are. They understand 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (G), and that's how companies will want to market it. Same way they market cameras with megapixels - sounds better, people don't generally know it doesn't necessarily mean a better quality image will be produced.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
AT&T Announces Plans to Launch 5G Network in Parts of Minneapolis for Super Bowl LII
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
But that's just it - people generally ARE stupid (not meant as an insult and I include myself in that) and the companies know that people don't understand what LTA, LTA-A, UMTS, HSPA, GSM etc. etc. are. They understand 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (G), and that's how companies will want to market it. Same way they market cameras with megapixels - sounds better, people don't generally know it doesn't necessarily mean a better quality image will be produced.
So which cellular chipsets support these technologies enumerated in the article? Did Applenot adopt any of them or did it purposeless cripple HW?
A little more investigative journalism here is in order!
A little more investigative journalism here is in order!
This is not 5G but LTE version 16.(aka 4G advance)
AT&T this week announced that it plans to launch its "5G Evolution" network in parts of Minneapolis over the next few months, intending to provide next-generation cellular coverage to customers at Super Bowl LII. AT&T didn't mention which specific areas of Minneapolis would be covered by February 4, 2018, but confirmed "areas near the host stadium" will have 5G at the time.
Minneapolis is the next leg in AT&T's 5G rollout, and one of 20 markets where the carrier is planning to bring 5G Evolution by the end of 2017. The technology is already available in parts of Austin and Indianapolis, and allows customers access to much faster speeds on compatible devices, which as of now does not yet include any iPhone model.
In addition to the upgraded network in and around Minneapolis, AT&T will also upgrade the Distributed Antenna System (DAS) at the U.S. Bank Stadium in downtown Minneapolis, where Super Bowl LII will be held. The company said this means the stadium will be "overloaded...with wireless capacity and boosted LTE capacity" by an increase of 150 percent compared to last year, thanks to more than 800 antennas.
AT&T mentioned that Minneapolis is a "major step" on its journey to make 5G a standard for mobile networks "as soon as late 2018." In total, the locations focused on AT&T's 5G rollout will result in "smarter cities," according to the company, as well as support for higher quality augmented and virtual reality experiences on smartphones.
Right now, 5G-capable devices include LG V30, Moto Z2 Force Edition, Samsung Galaxy Note 8, Samsung Galaxy S8, Samsung Galaxy S8+, and the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active. These smartphones can take advantage of ultra-fast LTE Advanced features including 256 Quadrature Amplitude Modulation, 4x4 Multiple-Input and Multiple-Output, 3-way carrier aggregation, and other 5G-related upgrades, to provide faster network speeds to users.
Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon have also announced interest in 5G networks, with Sprint saying its own wide-scale 5G network will launch by 2019, and T-Mobile aiming for nationwide 5G coverage by 2020. Of course, all of this progress hinges on the 3rd Generation Partnership Project first completing the 5G Release 15 standard. According to AT&T, once Release 15 is out then 5G-supported "commercial equipment" will be available within six months.
Earlier this year, Apple submitted an application to the FCC for an experimental license to test next-generation 5G wireless technologies, which it was then granted in July. While the exact purpose of Apple's tests remains unclear, the company could be looking to prepare future models of its iPhone and iPad devices to take advantage of 5G network speeds.
Article Link: AT&T Announces Plans to Launch 5G Network in Parts of Minneapolis for Super Bowl LII
Why are companies allowed to use whatever name they like to describe their technologies?
Hoping 5G is our carrier equivalent to gigabit internet. This could change the world and our devices immensely.
Upload speeds with FiOS are so fast that I could theoretically edit 4K video directly from a cloud. Theoretically.
Upload speeds with FiOS are so fast that I could theoretically edit 4K video directly from a cloud. Theoretically.
If people are pronouncing iPhone X wrong by saying “Ex” then I say we also pronounce this wrong by calling it Super Bowl “Lee”
Remember when AT&T decided to market HSPA+ as 4G? I'm still upset about it.
Not sure where the frozen wasteland is (definitely a different city that is being referenced). But god-forbid a company rollout features in devices before the mechanism to take advantage is in place. That never happens in technology....
Honestly I like Minneapolis quite a bit. Wonderful people and a nice city (in the summertime) with interesting restaurants and culture/nightlife options. I was just being sarcastic in response to the other poster's comment.
5G unlimited: extra $40 and throttled at 10gb
5G super unlimited: extra $10 + $40 with no throttling but all video is 480p and 10fps
5G ultra: extra $10 + $10 + $40 for HD video at 60fps but you have to have Direct TV and a land phone line plans too but no tethering included. That’s and extra $45.
5G super unlimited: extra $10 + $40 with no throttling but all video is 480p and 10fps
5G ultra: extra $10 + $10 + $40 for HD video at 60fps but you have to have Direct TV and a land phone line plans too but no tethering included. That’s and extra $45.
Only if you use more data once you have a 5G-capable phone than you do now. Just because the data is moving faster doesn't mean you're using more of it compared to using your phone on a slower network.
Edit: I see from a post a few above this one that you recognize what I pointed out. While I do concur that some people will use more data given that they'll have faster speeds, other people definitely will not. I have family members that used 200-300 MB of data a month when they had an iPhone that was only 3G-capable. Once they moved up to an LTE-capable iPhone, they still used the same amount of data. It all depends on the person and how they use their phone.
I think their point was that most U.S. carriers are nowhere close to offering the kind of throughput that LTE-A is supposed to provide on a consistent basis.
Hey if you want to run Android for the one networking feature that works in a couple cities, no one is stopping you.
Others might value the many other features that differentiate the iPhone X enough to have made that call.
There’s no shame in a cell phone purchase.
5G won't be ready for prime time until 2019-2020.... The immediate effect might be offloading someone the work on the 4G networks which might be positive for speeds.
For all those people who would use it for the super bowl and then not be able to use it when they leave? Who cares?
To be honest with a lot of these new developments putting them in early doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a good thing. I remember getting my first 4@3g Phone which shipped with a spare battery because battery life was so poor. Unlike then as well I have no need for the current speeds plus even if i did most data allowances in the UK could burn through it in minutes st max speeds. I’m still happy with my X and will wait for real 5G which here in the U.K. isn’t likely for several years
Anybody else not interested in 5G on their cellphone? LTE is plenty fast. I don’t need to stream 4K or 5K video to my phones screen. HD is more than enough on such a small screen. Tablets or other devices might be a different story.
I’d rather have AT&T shore up their LTE coverage (I get 5 bars at home and only 3 when I’m working downtown and I don’t live near a large city) than spend a dime on 5G at this point.
I’d rather have AT&T shore up their LTE coverage (I get 5 bars at home and only 3 when I’m working downtown and I don’t live near a large city) than spend a dime on 5G at this point.
Last edited:
This is the exact same marketing scheme pushed by carriers like they did with 4G. Total BS.
Oh no, now the YouTubes will only load in a half second instead of a quarter second!! I'm basically garbage.
T-Mobile started that crap. Calling HSPA+ 4G.
AT&T had no choice but to follow suit for fear of losing customers over "branding".