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Can you get the refurbs be bought with no contract. How much would the cheapest one be. Posted on my iPod touch!
 
If you like having a 90-day warranty instead of a 1-year warranty on a device that commonly has problems after a few months of usage (I'm on my third), go for it.

Does anyone know if AppleCare can be added to a refurbished phone? It's available for around $50 in many places, and that would extend warranty to 2 years, right? So, in the end, you spend $50 less than a new phone and get twice the warranty.

Doug
 
I don't care what the initial fee is. I'm not paying the monthly fees. It's quite expensive when I only use my cell for the wife to tell me what I need to get at the store.
 
...a savy AT&T person can build a compatible plan using rate codes found across the internet.

...I'm happily paying around 68/month (After taxes and discounts) for 650 anytime (only 450 roll over), 5000 N&W, 1500 text messages and unlimited data. Not sprint or t-mobile prices but pretty damn good in my books.

A non-savvy non AT&T person here ready to take the plunge on a new iPhone (either this refurb, or possibly wait for what looks like an imminent new gen release).

Either way I would greatly appreciate guidance on where I can find the "rate codes" needed to get a comparable deal to what you outlined above.
 
If you like having a 90-day warranty instead of a 1-year warranty on a device that commonly has problems after a few months of usage (I'm on my third), go for it.

Why does sit say that a refurbished iPhone 3G comes with a warranty of "90 days or more?" What the heck does that mean is it or isn't it 90 days?
 
I dont see this price when i want to renew my contract. And yes i am eligible for an upgrade. Anybody know why this is?
 
I'm happily paying around 68/month (After taxes and discounts) for 650 anytime (only 450 roll over), 5000 N&W, 1500 text messages and unlimited data. Not sprint or t-mobile prices but pretty damn good in my books.

Um... how? I'm paying ~$66/month, all told, for 450 minutes/5000 N&W/200 text, and unlimited data - this on a 2G iphone. How on earth are you getting another 200 minutes, 1300 text, and 3G for essentially the same price? Please tell me, because if I can get that, I'm sure as hell buying an iphone 3G.

However I think that if they want a long-term sales increase rather than just a spike they could stand to drop the plans by $5 to $10 - it's not like they're hard up for cash...

Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that's going to make a big difference in most people's carrier decisions. $5 on a monthly bill does add up, but I can't see people choosing or not choosing a provider on that basis.
 
I'm guessing this means new iPhones are coming (obviously) ?
...this is kind of like saying "Apple has the Mac Mini in the refurbished store, it must mean they're going to be releasing new ones," No it just means the iPhones are not exactly new any more and they've gotten back so many broken ones that they might as well fix them up and sell them at a discount.

I don't care what the initial fee is. I'm not paying the monthly fees. It's quite expensive when I only use my cell for the wife to tell me what I need to get at the store.

Then you wouldn't ever need an iPhone, except as a toy, and you can buy better toys at the same up front price or cheaper without the monthly fee so I'm really not seeing your point here, you're not the market they're aiming at with the $99 price point.
 
Good question. Do I still need a contract?

Definitely. If they force people who pay full price for the device to sign a contract, why wouldn't they force people who buy refurbished devices on contract to sign an extension?

If you like having a 90-day warranty instead of a 1-year warranty on a device that commonly has problems after a few months of usage (I'm on my third), go for it.

I believe you can still buy AppleCare extension to 2-years on refurbished phones, so that's not too bad. Anyways, I think refurbished devices (especially from Apple) tend to have higher quality control since they have to pick the good parts to remanufacture the refurbished device. Many times new devices have untested parts that result in DOAs.

Regardless, I think that your premise is wrong.

What will sell more iPhones for AT&T

- $99 starting price (vs $199)
- discounting $4.16 on a monthly phone bill over 2 years?

Despite the realities of the math, many people see upfront savings much more desirable than total cost of ownership savings.

arn

This is the same model most printer manufacturers use and most consumers don't account for. Get a free printer and pay $20 for ink cartridges that print 100 pages.


When did MR become Engadget? :p

I'm guessing this means new iPhones are coming (obviously) ?

This means that enough defective devices have been exchanged for them to make refurbished phones to sell. No other conclusions can be made.

A non-savvy non AT&T person here ready to take the plunge on a new iPhone (either this refurb, or possibly wait for what looks like an imminent new gen release).

Either way I would greatly appreciate guidance on where I can find the "rate codes" needed to get a comparable deal to what you outlined above.

You need a FAN account and then if you're lucky a CSR who hasn't been told not to add codes. You can find a list feature codes on the HoFo wiki.

Dropping the 2-yr AT&T contract requirements to 1-year, better yet zero ---- might get me interested. Maybe ;)

They even require people who bring their own devices to sign a contract [which is unheard of a fews ago], so again, unlikely.

Um... how? I'm paying ~$66/month, all told, for 450 minutes/5000 N&W/200 text, and unlimited data - this on a 2G iphone. How on earth are you getting another 200 minutes, 1300 text, and 3G for essentially the same price? Please tell me, because if I can get that, I'm sure as hell buying an iphone 3G.

A lot of discounts, haggling, and pleading.
 
Then you wouldn't ever need an iPhone, except as a toy, and you can buy better toys at the same up front price or cheaper without the monthly fee so I'm really not seeing your point here, you're not the market they're aiming at with the $99 price point.

My point is if the monthly fee were cheaper i'd get it.

I do have a cell phone even if I don't use it much. I also have a pocket PC and an ipod. Combining all of these things would be nice.
 
We can get iPhones on 1 year contracts and also as outright purchases on zero contract.

Ya i know that. Apple is the only one who does that...
Everyone else has a huge retail price tag.
Apple has one flat out rate if you have a contract or not.
 
Firstly, where in my two line post did I make mention of any other US telecommunications company?

I did not compare the current plans to any other rival plan on other networks, I did not mention any employee referral system.

I did not say the plans were overpriced, I did not say the plans were poor value.

I did not mention coverage differences.

I said, that if AT&T wants to sell more iPhones they would be better served by lowering the plan prices a fraction than by knocking a relatively low price off the upfront cost.

Did you read my post at all before going off on that rant?

Sorry, thought you were a troll baiting and waiting for someone to mention "It's cheaper then verizon" and then point to lower plan prices at Sprint and /or T-Mobile. Look around the iphone forum ... it's full of similar 1-2 posts.

What makes it worse is they usually refer to deals that are hard to get / not common for the customer and my point was you can do the same with AT&T if you know how to look.

Apple already has "knocked" the price down a notch by allowing carriers to offer subsidy's. That is why Apple has sold millions .....

By offering a discounted refurb they are creating a form of price discrimination for more price sensitive customers. If they had lowered the original price for new phones they would just be hurting revenue.
 
:rolleyes: I'm waiting for the next iPhone that will have CMDA 1xEVDO capabilities (Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular). I know a guy who works for Verizon who says that the iPhone would compete with their VCast music store crap thingy. Who the hell wants to pay TWO BUCKS for their Verizon-phone only music downloads? I say nobody gives a rat's hind end about Verizon's stupid soon-to-be-made-obsolete-by-the-iPhone VCast garbage. All we want and care about are their ultra-dense coverage and AT&T-pwning data speed. ;) :D I have Verizon's LG enV2, and although it's a pretty good little phone in its own merit, it starts to look pretty pathetic when compared to the Jesus phone. :D lol
 
Ya i know that. Apple is the only one who does that...
Everyone else has a huge retail price tag.
Apple has one flat out rate if you have a contract or not.

The one year contracts are with Optus and both Optus and Telstra sell the phone outright. Apple do not sell the iPhone directly in Australia but rather through 4 different carriers.

I don't see why AT&T couldn't do 12 month contracts.
 
I'm eligible to upgrade and am 1 year into ownership of my 1st Gen iPhone (Dec 07) and my price on a refurb is $149 and $249 (16GB).

I really tire of the 'new customers get the best deal' crap that phone companies do. ATT in particular has NO long-term customer benefits.
 
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