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this will inevitably cause lawsuits. There will be innumerable circumstances where a 5G connection will be slower than regular ole 4G LTE... people will want their money back.

This will cause lawsuits for attempted genocide. People will want their non-brain cancer life back.
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I am talking about reality. Something you clearly have no understanding of. You'd be dead without government. Plonk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
 



The next couple of years will see the rollout of 5G cellular phone networks from companies like Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile, and it sounds like 5G smartphone plans might not be priced in the same way as current 4G LTE plans.

During today's AT&T earnings call, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson said (via The Verge) that he believes the pricing for 5G connectivity could resemble home broadband pricing with different prices for different speed tiers rather than one set price for the fastest connectivity available.

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5G networks are still in the early days, so how pricing will ultimately work out remains to be seen. It's also not clear how variable pricing for tiered speeds would work given the fact that 5G connections speeds are going to vary depending on whether you're in a city or in a more rural area.

The fastest 5G speeds, available through mmWave technology, will be limited to urban areas. Verizon CEO Hans Vestberg this week explained that millimeter wave high-frequency spectrum isn't suitable for widespread coverage, a sentiment shared by T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray, who wrote a blog post on the subject earlier this week.AT&T has launched its 5G network in a handful of markets across the United States, and other carriers, like Verizon, have also been starting their 5G network rollouts.

There are few smartphones that are able to take advantage of 5G networks at the current time, but additional 5G smartphones are expected later in 2019.

Rumors suggest Apple's first 5G iPhone will come out in 2020, when 5G networks are more mature and more widely available. Apple is planning to use chips from Qualcomm and perhaps Samsung now that Intel is out of the 5G smartphone modem chip business.

Article Link: AT&T CEO Believes 5G Phone Plans Could Be Tiered and Priced on Data Speed

You know what’s going to happen anyway. The theoretical speed possibly by 5G will end up lower for the same reasons most people never hit their maximum 3G or 4G speeds. Traffic at peak times, throttling, weak antennas, buildings blocking signals, neighbours pirating masses of movies and consuming the bandwidth at the local exchange, etc
 
Wouldn't this be a blatant violation of Net Neutrality?

I don’t think so. They aren’t restricting access to the internet, nor access to specific websites. This is basically the same business model as home WiFi, which has been around for many years, including during the Obama’s presidency.

I’m fine with these pricing tiers, but then I want something in return. True unlimited data. This is how it is with home WiFi, so this shouldn’t be any different. There’s no way I paying for both increased data and increased speed.
 
Explain to me how this works, because this statement leaves me confused and I've seen similar statements on here before. The reason that I'm confused is that a 5 gigabyte movie is still 5 gigabytes whether downloaded over 4G or 5G so why would 5G use up data quicker? It's going to download it faster obviously but you're still only downloading 5 gigabytes.

What am I missing here?

Because you are going to burn through your data much more quickly. Certainly I appreciate that with 5g you are going to be able to fully download that movie faster, but why bother if you can just stream it? If 5g doesn't affect the streaming quality then it's added benefit seems useless to me. Of course there are niche cases where it matters, maybe you need to fully download that movie because you are going on a plane trip or won't have internet access. But even in those situations is 4g really that slow? I appreciate that downloading a movie in 10 seconds versus 5 minutes is much faster, but in the real world why do I need that kind of speed? (numbers just made up).

What we truly needs is simply more data and/or truly unlimited plans. Although even then I'd still most likely opt for 4g if it was cheaper. If you want to pay extra for 5g then more power to you. But I think it's just marketing because such high speed is so badly hamstrung by data limits.
 
Who cares -- 5G is not relevant (at least now) for mobile phones. The initial use for 5G will be as an alternative for home broadband. I'm not trying to downplay the significance of 5G -- it appears that it is a huge innovation, but for phones the impact will be years from now. If will have to beat the price/performance of current home broadband to attract customers in the near term.
 
If AT&T is thinking this, best believe Verizon is right behind them. These guys collude like no ones business.
 
People have a price point they are willing to spend for mobile plans. Anything above will find no acceptance. You could see that in 2/3/4g networks already, the people in average pay a specific amount a month and that’s it.

In my country you can buy unlimited full speed mobile internet for about 100$ a month, but the people don’t ask for it. The average customer pays up to 25€ max without phone giveaway and takes the best offer he gets-that simple.

So basically you can offer 50 different speeds, people will take what they get for the money they always paid and the provider has build a 5g network that nobody needs.
 
It’s sucks when What should be considered a utility is being treated with “some people will be willing to pay more for the full experience”.

This quote from att shows exactly why this idea that private companies will provide the best experience to the largest number of users for something which is effectively necessary to function in society is incredibly misguided.
Society NEEDS 5G all of sudden? Did they NEED 5G when 3G came out?
 
Money grubbing whores
You are doing a disservice to 'whores' in comparing Telco's with them! 'Whores' (or more appropriately, sexworkers) are at least honest about their prices UPFRONT...and don't tack on various 'taxes and surcharges.' Or, at least I hope not. :) Sexworkers also don't have the clout to bribe our elected officials en masse to do their bidding, either. Now as to whether our elected officials could be considered prostitutes...I leave it to you to look at their voting records on legislation affecting powerful business interests vs the American electorate (joe working person).
 
This is why we need the T-Mobile & Sprint merger.

AT&T and Verizon are both unchecked. Naturally, that's not good.
 
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