they may have a 3.5 billion dollar profit, after spending 5 billion in network, we aren't seeing all the numbers.
or they are a planning a 15 billion dollar infrastructure rebuild
are companies not allowed to profit?
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AT&T CEO's "Only Regret" is Offering Unlimited Data Packages
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they may have a 3.5 billion dollar profit, after spending 5 billion in network, we aren't seeing all the numbers.
or they are a planning a 15 billion dollar infrastructure rebuild
are companies not allowed to profit?
couldn't have said it better
Well said.
If I stick with the iPhone past 4s, I'll be quitting AT&T in 2013. Their service is crap in NYC.
The greed of folks like this AT&T high mucky-muck is deplorable. I just cringe when I read/hear crap like this.
Well said.
If I stick with the iPhone past 4s, I'll be quitting AT&T in 2013. Their service is crap in NYC.
The greed of folks like this AT&T high mucky-muck is deplorable. I just cringe when I read/hear crap like this.
That's like pricing a Ferrari like a Volvo. they both use the same fuel and one won't want to pay more for the gas they fill in. The premium charged on products is justified in terms of uniqueness. You can't have an iPhone, you can have something that resembles an iPhone or acts a bit like one.
connectivity is another story, refer to my gas story above (pun not intended).
btw I know you work for AT&T. let's not brand the forum on basis of posts of a few individuals
OUTRAGEOUS.
Text messaging should NOT cost anywhere near
No wonder Apple's knockoff BBM is so awesome.
Fixed.
The one regret many users have that they ever signed with AT&T.
That their boss lies awake at night, worrying how to get more of your money for giving less of his service is funny.
Thumbs up for Apple's message service. The rates the cell phone cartel charges for text messages is ridiculous (they should give you credit every time you send a text instead of making a voice call - it's that cheap!).
That their boss lies awake at night, worrying how to get more of your money for giving less of his service is funny.
Thumbs up for Apple's message service. The rates the cell phone cartel charges for text messages is ridiculous (they should give you credit every time you send a text instead of making a voice call - it's that cheap!).
Even on a limited plan Skype is deadly once the cell network is fast enough to sustain decent quality calls, as it should be with LTE. Only limited data plans and throttling can stop Skype and other VOIPs at that point.
WWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa........
Poor baby.. Has to miss half an hour of mystery sleep in his $20,000,000 bedroom cause he couldn't get his $5,000,000 swimming pool installed and had to settle for the $4,500,000 one instead....
F * U K H I M.........
Poor baby.. Has to miss half an hour of mystery sleep in his $20,000,000 bedroom cause he couldn't get his $5,000,000 swimming pool installed and had to settle for the $4,500,000 one instead....
F * U K H I M.........
The guy should suck it up and admit that the unlimited data was little more than a 'bait and switch' - suck customers in and then lock them in with a contract for a couple of years. This whole unlimited data has been unsustainable right from the year zero but god forbid these organisations actually being honest about the limitations of a cellular network and capacity constraints due to the nature of wireless technology.
As for iMessage - the only way it could ever become a threat is if Apple allowed non-iOS devices to access the service in which case then the carriers would be completely screwed but I doubt that ever happening given that Apple is hell bent on iMessage being an iOS only feature.
As for iMessage - the only way it could ever become a threat is if Apple allowed non-iOS devices to access the service in which case then the carriers would be completely screwed but I doubt that ever happening given that Apple is hell bent on iMessage being an iOS only feature.
Well that's just another VOIP app. When I said the iPad couldn't do calls I meant GSM calls. Of course it can do VOIP calls. So can the iPod for that matter. And in case it was forgotten, the context was that I claimed AT&T and other carriers can't add a voiceplan to a iPad data plan because it has no GSM calling abilities.
Even more to the point, even if somehow there was an app that could magically open up GSM calling, even if that was the case, neither AT&T, nor any other carrier, could force a voiceplan on you. No one can force you to use any app. So to even mention this is besides the point.
I live in the Detroit, Michigan area and voice calls with Skype over 3G are hit and miss depending on where you are, even if the caller is receiving on Skype. Sometimes it's great, usually it's not.
On the other hand I've been in deserted areas of Costa Rica and used the 3G data network to make Skype calls of incredible clarity back to phones in the US. I've actually made LOTS of calls that way (and using Onavo) looked to see what my data usage was for Skype (actually, I think it was just audio/video category and it was 1/2 of what I used with 4square) and the numbers were incredibly low (sorry I don't have anything specific to reference). That's probably due to the low population of those areas not clogging up the bandwidth in those areas.
Gary
Absolutely, let's see the numbers!
'cause i sure see a whole lot of lousy service.
And where in the world did you get that companies aren't allowed to profit from that? Even if you just do some quick math from the posting you'll see at least an admittedly paltry 1.5 billion dollars left over for fancy restaurants and private tennis lessons. Isn't that good? Not enough?
Start with Why
Instead of laying in bed sleepless over iMessage, how about worrying about Apple starting their own US based carrier and eating your lunch by supplying simple, easy to consume, cell service all based on VoIP. And you loose 60% of your new phone sales and activations.
The only reason I stay with ATT is that I do have the original unlimited plans on iPhone/iPad. Calculate all the original users leaving.
As expected, ATT focuses not on improving their service, but on what is disruptive to their business model.
Instead of laying in bed sleepless over iMessage, how about worrying about Apple starting their own US based carrier and eating your lunch by supplying simple, easy to consume, cell service all based on VoIP. And you loose 60% of your new phone sales and activations.
The only reason I stay with ATT is that I do have the original unlimited plans on iPhone/iPad. Calculate all the original users leaving.
As expected, ATT focuses not on improving their service, but on what is disruptive to their business model.
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Exactly right. That's why I'm really hopping LTE will continue to perform as it currently does. If you can hold a consistent 1mbps up and down you should be more than fine to handle any VOIP app, whether it be Skype or someone else. 3G, in theory should handle that more than fine, but as we've learned, the carriers load up so many users that the network becomes all clogged up.
I guess the same could happen with LTE, but people will expect a higher quality of service, so the minimum will be higher, and that minimum should be well-above what's needed. I guess time will tell.
Nope. Spectrum, ergo bandwidth, is a finite resource because you cannot make any more of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_allocation
Michael
The iMessage means nothing to AT&T. Lame excuse.
Not everyone uses iPhones. And not everyone turns on iMessage. In fact many of my friends have started turning off iMessage especially when connected to wifi because some messages failed during weak wifi signals.
As for regretting selling unlimited data. That is hog wash. If that is the case why did AT&T start forcing $30 smartphone unlimited data plans on all smartphones recognized by AT&T starting September 2009. That meant regardless if you paid full price/Craigslist/eBay. If AT&T recognized the phone as a smartphone they would slap a $30 data plan on you. P
This happened a full 9 moths before they started tiered data plans.
AT&T CEO cannot have it both ways. If the network is congested because of unlimited data. One of the best ways to get rid of unlimited users is give those not under contract or buy full price phones the option of opting out of data completely like tmobile USA does.
That would free up AT&T network fast. Half the heaviest users are probably college students who are probably around wifi 90% plus of the time and would gladly dump unlimited data to save $30 a month.
Not everyone uses iPhones. And not everyone turns on iMessage. In fact many of my friends have started turning off iMessage especially when connected to wifi because some messages failed during weak wifi signals.
As for regretting selling unlimited data. That is hog wash. If that is the case why did AT&T start forcing $30 smartphone unlimited data plans on all smartphones recognized by AT&T starting September 2009. That meant regardless if you paid full price/Craigslist/eBay. If AT&T recognized the phone as a smartphone they would slap a $30 data plan on you. P
This happened a full 9 moths before they started tiered data plans.
AT&T CEO cannot have it both ways. If the network is congested because of unlimited data. One of the best ways to get rid of unlimited users is give those not under contract or buy full price phones the option of opting out of data completely like tmobile USA does.
That would free up AT&T network fast. Half the heaviest users are probably college students who are probably around wifi 90% plus of the time and would gladly dump unlimited data to save $30 a month.
Thanks!
Dear Mr. Stephenson,
**** you. I couldn't be happier to be giving your competitor (Sprint) my hard earned dollars. You greedy, customer hating bastard. Reading this only makes my decision to leave your disgustingly awful service even more satisfying.
Dear Mr. Stephenson,
**** you. I couldn't be happier to be giving your competitor (Sprint) my hard earned dollars. You greedy, customer hating bastard. Reading this only makes my decision to leave your disgustingly awful service even more satisfying.