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AT&T Cracking Down on Unauthorized Tethering

We need to form a soviet council and nationalize the telecommunications providers thats the ticket....

Then prices will be cheap and we will get great service, because government is so efficient at what it does.

Sing to our glorious motherland.
 
robanga said:
We need to form a soviet council and nationalize the telecommunications providers thats the ticket....

Then prices will be cheap and we will get great service, because government is so efficient at what it does.

Sing to our glorious motherland.
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You people are beyond ridiculous (and contempt, IMO). WTF does Communism got to do with crushing unions and destroying collective bargaining? If anything, what these Republicans are trying to do is closer to Communism than what I'm talking about. There's greed and then there's GREED. The Middle Class in America was built upon the backs of unions demanding better wages and working conditions. The Greedmonger Party is trying to take us back to the days of kids working in coal mines and no minimum wage so they can pay slave labor rates like they do in most 3rd world countries. The United States should never be heading in the direction of 3rd world status. These people sold out this country to big oil and Communist China sweat shops and are turning it into a garbage heap of nothing but landfills and WalMarts. And then they laugh about it to boot. It makes me sick. Go ahead and laugh it up (and hope there is no God while you're at it because the One I was brought up to believe in hates greed).
 
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It's really plutocracy run by the wealthy aristocracy. Let's be honest; Citizens United ended the US as a socialist democracy and moved us towards plutocracy. I weep or the nation.
 
oh man I wish there was no minimum wage!

even poor people will be wishing that soon when cheap efficient robots get all their jobs. Then they will crowd the streets chanting "THEY TUK RRR JYOBS"!!
At least they won't be so mad at the illegal immigrants anymore though. That's unity.
 
Kadman said:
I use MyWi 3 or 4 days out of the week for periodic surfing and sometimes streaming (Sling, Netflix, NCAA for March Madness) and no notification or letter.
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how long have you been doing this for? I'm looking to use maybe a couple of times a month and nothing to
Data heavy but would hate to have AT&T hollering at me
 
mochacian said:
how long have you been doing this for? I'm looking to use maybe a couple of times a month and nothing to
Data heavy but would hate to have AT&T hollering at me
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I started using MyWi when Jailbreakme.com was the norm (4.0.1 days?) usage hasn't been constant, but I definitely have weekends during soccer seasons where I use it quite a bit.
 
It's not the amount that you download in which they flag you for tethering. Somehow they have been able to determine what data is what and that the data that you are using from MyWi is different from the data normally from a iPhone.

I received the txt as well, called them up and no matter what you say to them they cover any and all devices connected to the iPhone as tethering. Even if you were to connect a iPhone to iPhone I suppose. (I didn't really ask that.) they said that they are accurate 98%

You are given 10 days from the initial report to stop tethering or you will be switched to a $45 plan.

The person even said, it doesn't matter if you are using up 100 gb, as long as it's through the phone and not tethering they won't tag you.

Once your account is flagged, and if you give them a call, the flag to change you to a tethered 4 gb plan will not go into effect, however you will always be monitored on everything you do on the iPhone from here on out. So you essentially will be monitored to be made sure that you are no longer tethering onto your iPhone.

I'm just waiting for someone to be wrongfully accused, and loses their unlimited plan, then takes at&t to court over it. Hopefully that would be the case and stop these senseless messages and e-mails.
 
mochacian said:
how long have you been doing this for? I'm looking to use maybe a couple of times a month and nothing to
Data heavy but would hate to have AT&T hollering at me
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I generally tether about five times a week to either my NookColor/iPad/Laptop. Each session uses up about five to thirty MB's of total downloaded/uploaded data.
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
They say people don't like big government, but the only way to stop BS fees and other crap from corporations is to keep passing laws (which they then look for loopholes to circumvent and the circle goes on and on). For instance, they are trying to get legislation to limit the fees credit card banks can charge merchants (see "interchange fees" on any news site) and the banks are, of course threatening to simply rip customers off in another area (e.g. remove free checking, increase ATM fees, etc.) because they aren't making enough money, don't you know. Record profits and a recession squarely at the feet of banks and yet they are not making enough profit. 🙄

Meanwhile, teachers, police and firefighters are apparently making too much money with pushes by Republicans and Tea Baggers to cut their pay and benefits packages in the name of the greater good. Yes, the same greater good that corporations and banks refuse to contribute to because they are simply not making enough profit. They need to charge you higher ATM fees and overage fees and walking on their carpet fees so they can buy that extra mansion and brand new Aston Martin. Teachers can get by with less, though. They don't need health care and $50,000 a year is just too much money! They're stinking rich don't you know? 🙄

Yes, AT&T needs that extra fee for the same data you already paid for. After all, coffee turns to wine when you visit Google via a laptop instead of an iPad.... 🙄 🙄 🙄
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You are paying for 3G service on YOUR PHONE not your laptop.
You cannot easily DL 150Gs for example on your iphone yet you could easily do that on a laptop in one day.

Stop trying to cheat the system.
 
What about iPad in iPhone to iPad tethering?

Omniblast said:
Somehow they have been able to determine what data is what and that the data that you are using from MyWi is different from the data normally from a iPhone.

they cover any and all devices connected to the iPhone as tethering. Even if you were to connect a iPhone to iPhone I suppose. (I didn't really ask that.) they said that they are accurate 98%

as long as it's through the phone and not tethering they won't tag you.

the flag to change you to a tethered 4 gb plan will not go into effect
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Ok, so, I have my iPad 3g sim inside a nonactivated iPhone 4. The 3g plan was activated on an iPad. The phone has no AT&T data plan.

I use MyWi tethering rarely and when I do, it is only to give my wife a signal on her iPad for very little data. Occasionally, I will have my iPhone and iPad, and will connect my iPad to the iPhone, but it is small amount of data also.

In fact, I have never even gone over 1gb even though I am on the unlimited plan with my original iPad.

So, what does this look to AT&T? Technically, it is my iPad plan that is pulling data, and giving it to an iPad. ????

Ideas?
 
lokerd said:
So, what does this look to AT&T? Technically, it is my iPad plan that is pulling data, and giving it to an iPad. ????
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Most likely to A&T, this looks like your iPad data plan is routing data through the device where the SIM is installed to another device. Which is exactly what you're doing. From what I have seen so far, it makes no difference how much you tether.
The only catch in your scenario is that AT&T does not offer a plan with tethering for the iPad, so 'm unsure what action they would take upon flagging this usage.
 
davelanger said:
You are paying for 3G service on YOUR PHONE not your laptop.
You cannot easily DL 150Gs for example on your iphone yet you could easily do that on a laptop in one day.

Stop trying to cheat the system.
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I don't even have a freaking iPhone dude so spare me the lecture about what you automatically somehow assume I'm doing. 🙄

Regardless, what you can and cannot 'easily do' is IRRELEVANT. If you paid for 150GB of data then you are entitled to 150GB of data. And and it's not that hard to DL a lot of data on an iPad, for instance. A computer is a computer. Just because it's smaller doesn't make it fundamentally different. Safari is on an iPhone, an iPad and a Notebook. And I don't think most of these people doing this are running Bit Torrent clients on their tethered connection. Many people just want to check their e-mail on their notebook. I don't see how that entitles AT&T to more money for the same data regardless of whether it's checked with your e-mail on the iPhone, iPad or iMac.

What YOU and others on here REFUSE to acknowledge is that AT&T are unbelievably GREEDY, immoral and despicable for trying to charge people twice for the same data they already paid for.

Some don't see it because they think the greedy rich are always right and that the average hard working person should bow down to the almighty rich people. They believe that the top 5% should control 99% of the wealth and everyone else should just take whatever they're dishing out. They want early fees, late fees, in-between fees, going to the bathroom while on the clock fees, processing fees, handling fees, baggage fees, pillow fees, sitting near an aisle fees, and a surcharge if your socks don't match your shoes fee. If you don't like those fees, you can just go without because you won't get the service without it. You must AGREE to the software terms, no matter how ridiculously unreasonable or return your opened $60 game which the store will NOT take back because it's been opened or pay a 25% 'restocking' fee. Too bad. But no, it's the person who is sick of getting constantly screwed by the system that is in the wrong.... 🙄
 
err404 said:
From what I have seen so far, it makes no difference how much you tether.
The only catch in your scenario is that AT&T does not offer a plan with tethering for the iPad, so 'm unsure what action they would take upon flagging this usage.
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Thanks for the reply.

What if I switch to the 2gb plan? Will we still get a tethering message?

EDIT: Also of interest is how they would even communicate with me. I can't receive SMS messages on the pseudo iphone. They could email me, but it seems that this notification starts first with a phone text message.
 
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rstansby said:
As far as I'm concerned it is the same as going to an all you can eat restaurant and sharing your food between two people, while only paying for one.
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Ok, interesting analogy. But, the logical argument is, what if I am NOT at an "All You Can Eat" buffet? What if I only ordered one meal, and I want to share it?

So, I ought to have the option to share a limited data plan. If I pay for 2gb of data, I ought to be able to use it however I want, period.

Also, a problem with your analogy is if am tethering to myself. I.e. I have my phone sitting right next to my iPad. I COULD use the phone, but the iPad is much bigger. When I do tether, I tend to put the phone in my dash and leave it alone.
 
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lokerd said:
Ok, interesting analogy. But, the logical argument is, what if I am NOT at an "All You Can Eat" buffet? What if I only ordered one meal, and I want to share it?
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some restaurants charge an extra fee to allow two people order 1 meal and share it.
 
alandail said:
some restaurants charge an extra fee to allow two people order 1 meal and share it.
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True. Good point. And I LOATH those places and refuse to go back. Thankfully, it is not very common...usually only for really fancy places. Some places have it on the menu, a split plate fee. Usually simply stating "PLEASE DON'T SPILT THE MEAL ON TWO PLATES" takes the steam out of their crappy fee!

bboucher790 said:
It's not like home internet where you can share the connection, nor have I ever imagined it would be.
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Another interesting comment. When DSL first started hitting our area in SETExas, in 2000, AT&T opposed us connecting more than one computer to the DSL modem with the use of a router. Of course, we know how that turned out, with ATT now offering their own router/modem. I keep my network open at my house, although my neighbors are locked. Occasionally, I see their laptops and other home wireless devices are connected to my network, maybe because it is stronger, who knows. But it is no big deal. But where is the line drawn?

I think eventually, competition will HAVE to prevail, and this will all be moot. I am really surprised we have seen this backwards momentum in a time when the big companies are fighting for retention. But I think it will turn back around eventually. Kind of like cell phone companies offering unlimited voice. Look where we were 10 years ago with cell phone plans. Eventually, competition has gotten us to where we are now. Let's hope this current stinginess turns around quickly.
 
jav6454 said:
As per tethering, hell to the NO am I changing to a tiered plan.
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I purchased a phone with unlimited data. I was also told the phone would eventually have tethering (no prices or info, but I expected an increase).

But they never offered that! They offered to take away my unlimited data and then give me tethering (I'd even accept a reasonable cap on my tethering).

Gary
http://GarySaid.com/
 
Grandfather tethering?

rkahl said:
Absolutely FALSE.

Call AT&T right now and tell them that you are grandfathered in the unlimited data plan but you want tethering now. You will have no problem switching at all!
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Seriously, you've got the unlimited grandfathered plan and they've added tethering for you? How much money and what bandwidth restrictions?

Gary
 
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