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It isn't a throttle and it isn't a cap. You are misinformed. As is 90% of anybody else you talk to about this.
One of the reasons I switched from veizion is because they used to throttle our grandfathered unlimited plan after 2GB! We don't experience that any more with our new carrier.
 
So since we are getting limited internet can we go to LTE because 4G is already the speed of freaking dial up.
 
AT&T have always bitched about customers using all the data, but they're only doing it, so they can give there Directv customers all the free bandwidth they want, to watch tv & movies on there devices.
If that's the case, thank you very much. I love streaming from "DirecTV Now" without limits. I use it daily. Last month I think I ate up 30GB just watching DirecTV.
 
I had one of these plans....sold it years ago for like $1k.

Yikes, feel sorry for the guy who bought it on eBay lol.

I'm actually shocked it took this long quite honestly.
If u sold it years ago. One can assume the person buying it used it as a home internet replacement (likely living in a semi rural area with no real broad band internet access besides slower satellite broad band)

So even if that person purchased it 3-4 years ago. They got more than their money's worth using it as home internet device for that time period.

Satellite internet easily can run $100-150 a month so the iPad unlimited more than paid for the intiial 1k investment on eBay.
 
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Can anyone give some real world examples of the 22gb threshold? I've had this plan for 7 years and have relied on it more in recent years.

I would say normal usage is about 100 to 300gb a month. Nothing crazy like 4k video or big file downloads. However most regular speeds only range 4 to 7mbps where I mostly use it.

Is 3-4mbps a reasonable expectation after 22gb? Or is it like the old 5gb cap to a crawl.

Really upset they have to mess up plans to loyal customers. Haven't they built out their networks?
 
One of the reasons I switched from veizion is because they used to throttle our grandfathered unlimited plan after 2GB! We don't experience that any more with our new carrier.
I have never heard of that ever happening.
Such an inaccurate title "Will See Throttling After 22GB of Usage"

"May see deprioritization after 22GB" would be better (I'd even take "may see throttling after 22GB" if promptly followed by an explanation since many don't understand it).
Finally someone who also feels the same as I do!
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Can anyone give some real world examples of the 22gb threshold? I've had this plan for 7 years and have relied on it more in recent years.

I would say normal usage is about 100 to 300gb a month. Nothing crazy like 4k video or big file downloads. However most regular speeds only range 4 to 7mbps where I mostly use it.

Is 3-4mbps a reasonable expectation after 22gb? Or is it like the old 5gb cap to a crawl.

Really upset they have to mess up plans to loyal customers. Haven't they built out their networks?
You're in an urban area with 4-7mbps speeds? Are your uploads faster than your downloads? That's a sign of congestion.

If congestion is why speeds are down to 4-7mbps then I would be wary. I saw someone who was testing speeds before and after deprioritization. They were getting 5mbps without deprioritization and about 1mbps after deprioritization. Sometimes a little less.

However if the tower is more unloaded and speeds of 20mbps+ are common, then I wouldn't worry.

I saw videos of people who were 100GB+ and still getting speeds 90mbps+.

This all was on Verizon though, so.
 
If u sold it years ago. One can assume the person buying it used it as a home internet replacement (likely living in a semi rural area with no real broad band internet access besides slower satellite broad band)

So even if that person purchased it 3-4 years ago. They got more than their money's worth using it as home internet device for that time period.

Satellite internet easily can run $100-150 a month so the iPad unlimited more than paid for the intiial 1k investment on eBay.


That's exactly what many people had to do just to function in parts of the country where internet access is exceedingly expensive for very little speed. Fiber roll out has been slow and only to wealthy highly population areas. You need high speed internet just to function in the world today.
 
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You're in an urban area with 4-7mbps speeds? Are your uploads faster than your downloads? That's a sign of congestion.

If congestion is why speeds are down to 4-7mbps then I would be wary. I saw someone who was testing speeds before and after deprioritization. They were getting 5mbps without deprioritization and about 1mbps after deprioritization. Sometimes a little less.

However if the tower is more unloaded and speeds of 20mbps+ are common, then I wouldn't worry.

I saw videos of people who were 100GB+ and still getting speeds 90mbps+.

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No, rural suburban area. I just have a poorer signal to tower with the device. I suppose using an antenna would boost it but it wasn't too much of an issue for its purpose. So middle of the night and speeds would be same.

If it's just prime time usage drops speeds low but still useable life goes on.
 
I am sick of articles such as these misleading people.

The article isn't misleading. It explains everything you said in your post. And people that have these plans have every right to be upset... they used to have a better plan, and now it's not as good. I would be upset.

I have a LOT of trouble believing that there are enough iPad owners that have maintained their original unlimited plans to significantly affect network loads. This seems a lot more like a stupid decision by money-hungry executives.
 
Just switch already. I was with ATT since the 3GS and I recently switched to TMO. I couldn't even get a signal I had to have a microcell tower in my house to use ATT and I live in LOS ANGELES! Switched to TMO my bill is now the same but I have insurance on my devices and my girls kid has a free iphone and TMO is faster for me. The kid also got a FREE line line during their Christmas promotions and if you buy insurance from they you also get free apple care if you buy the phone from them. Follow their CEO on twitter dude is legit.
 
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Here come the lawsuits.

Data caps are a scam.
That not what scam means. Advertising no data cap and then capping it would be a scam.

And this isn't a data cap.
The article isn't misleading.
Maybe, but the title is. Some would call that click bait.
So, I have the unlimited plan and received the AT&T email this evening. I never checked what I use on my iPad. Is there a way to check usage?
Settings > Cellular
Edit: or use the AT&T app. Right in the opening screen.
 
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I hate when articles are so misleading and click-baity like this. It's still unlimited. Users will still likely be able to use 30, 40, 50, even 100GB and beyond on their iPad. It IS NOT a throttle. It IS NOT a data cap.

What it IS, is deprioritization. Your data is prioritized lower than other users ONLY DURING TIMES OF CONGESTION. And that doesn't mean you are going to see a hard cap to your speeds, you are just going to see slightly slowed speeds so that other users will have enough bandwidth and higher priority.

This is why everybody is so wrongly antagonistic and hostile toward the new unlimited plans, because they are convinced there is a 22GB **CAP** where you will be throttled down to unusable speeds. That is NOT the case, and people are unable to understand that because of constant misleading articles such as this.

Yes, speeds *might* be slowed. But only in areas that are very congested. Most users are not going to be on a super congested tower all the time where you'd actually see this "deprioritization".
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It is NOT A DATA CAP.

You're overreacting. Besides, you will have the exact same "limit" (that really isn't even a limit) on every other carrier.

It is not a cap. It is a threshold at which users will see lower priority. If the tower is extremely congested, then their speeds will be slightly slowed so that other users will have usable speeds. No, it isn't going to strictly limit speeds to 128kbps or anything like that at all. What it might do, is reduce ALREADY SLOW SPEEDS. The network experience would already suck, even when not deprioritized.

For example, if the tower can only put out 5mbps to you because of congestion, then while deprioritized you might see something more like 1-2mbps. And this might only happen for a moment, as well. When there is less traffic again, speeds will go back to normal and be the same for everybody, those who are past the 22GB threshold or not.

To put things into perspective, prepaid customers ALREADY ARE ALWAYS DEPRIORITIZED.

I am sick of articles such as these misleading people.


you really have no idea what you are talking about.. n AT&T rep told me after 22GB it can go as low as 128KB/s. You can barely read email at that speed. Yes it's possible they don't slow you down but you are very naive if you think that it won't be at 128KB/s a majority of the time. I used to have unlimited data on my iphone with AT&T and it was **** after you hit the cap and I don't see this being any different.

Sure they can say "deprioritized" if it is "crowded" but this a business and they will consider 2 people as crowded if it means saving money for them. The speeds will be ****.

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So, I have the unlimited plan and received the AT&T email this evening. I never checked what I use on my iPad. Is there a way to check usage?

I couldn't find a way to check usage at att.com/ipadlanding but if you call they will tell you how many you have used. I told them when I called that if they are putting a limit then they need a way to show us how many GB we have currently used because it's ridiculous not to have that.
 
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The data that was previously called Unlimited turns out to have been limited after all.

Now the data that is still being called Unlimited is being more limited than it was previously.

And still people defend it being called 'Unlimited'. Lol.
 
I am on Verizon, and I will soon. I am at 18.5GB out of 22GB. Maybe I will prove myself wrong and find data speeds to turn to hell after the threshold, but we'll see. Where I am, speeds run from 20-50mbps. Hardly congested. Rural area too. So we'll see.

I have seen plenty of video examples of people over even 80GB who were getting 90mbps+ speeds still (this was on Verizon). Tons of other people saying they saw no difference in speeds. Some saying they felt some brief slowdowns but nothing that didn't last longer than a few moments. And a couple saying their speeds become much less tolerable (but they live in an already congested area).

if you're on verizon then you have no clue or experience what you are talking about. AT&T throttles a lot harder than Verizon, after 22GB good luck loading a webpage even when you're not in a busy area. You won't be able to do anything if you're in a city.
 
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Such an inaccurate title "Will See Throttling After 22GB of Usage"
"May see deprioritization after 22GB" would be better (I'd even take "may see throttling after 22GB" if promptly followed by an explanation since many don't understand it).

deprioritization is throttling when AT&T decides the tower is too crowded which most likely will be 100% of the time. The title of the article is accurate enough.

Is 3-4mbps a reasonable expectation after 22gb? Or is it like the old 5gb cap to a crawl.

Really upset they have to mess up plans to loyal customers. Haven't they built out their networks?

when I had AT&T unlimited phone data and I went over the cap I could barely load a webpage. I don't see how this will be any different. I would expect 128kb/s, not even close to 3-4 mbps

This all was on Verizon though, so.

so basically everything you said has no basis because this is AT&T not Verizon. Different companies, AT&T is going to deprioritize/throttle excessively.

The article isn't misleading. It explains everything you said in your post. And people that have these plans have every right to be upset... they used to have a better plan, and now it's not as good. I would be upset.

I have a LOT of trouble believing that there are enough iPad owners that have maintained their original unlimited plans to significantly affect network loads. This seems a lot more like a stupid decision by money-hungry executives.

Yea there can't be very many of us. I would certainly understand putting the cap at 45-50GB since over that is really excessive and could hurt their network, but 22GB isn't much at all and there is no way we would put that much of a strain on their network.

Settings > Cellular

setting > cellular only gives you the data you've used since you last reset your statistics. You would have to reset your statistics every month to get an accurate reading.
 
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I've seen this coming for quite some time. The reality is that most people on the grandfathered plans don't use a ton of data to begin with. Obviously there are some that do, but a lot of people want it just for the fact that they don't worry about going over data. I've known numerous people that have the unlimited grandfathered plan and still use under 10GB a month. I'm sure this is very common.
 
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