AT&T denies squashing Google Voice for iPhone

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by FearNo1, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. FearNo1 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 9, 2009
    This sounds like B$ to me... Sooner or later, apple/at+t will be taken to court over the handling of the app store

    AT&T told federal regulators on Friday that it played no part in Apple's decision to keep the Google Voice application from the App Store, while Apple said it never actually rejected the application.

    In response to inquiries from the Federal Communications Commission, AT&T's Jim Cicconi, senior executive vice president for external and legislative affairs, told the agency, "Let me state unequivocally: AT&T had no role in any decision by Apple to not accept the Google Voice application for inclusion in the Apple App Store."

    Google Voice, which allows users to forward calls from multiple telephone numbers to a smartphone and make cheap international calls, was deemed unfit for App Store inclusion in July after it was released for BlackBerry and Android smartphones.

    Apple, for its part, claimed that the application was never actually rejected. "Contrary to published reports, Apple has not rejected the Google Voice application and continues to study it. The application has not been approved because, as submitted for review, it appears to alter the iPhone's distinctive user experience by replacing the iPhone's core mobile telephone functionality and Apple user interface with its own user interface for telephone calls, text messaging and voicemail," Apple said in a statement.

    Google also filed a letter in response to the FCC inquiry but redacted a significant portion of that letter when releasing it to the media, according to Reuters. Google did not immediately respond to a request for the letter.

    Suspicion immediately fell upon AT&T after the Google Voice application did not make it through the approval process, based on the fact that the application lets users bypass hefty rates on international calls. AT&T has also been believed to be behind the delay or rejection of several other applications that could have placed a strain on its network, such as Sling Media's SlingPlayer Mobile application.

    But AT&T said it has little influence over the approval process.

    "AT&T was not asked about the matter by Apple at any time, nor did we offer any view one way or the other. More broadly, AT&T does not own, operate, or control the Apple App Store, and is not typically consulted regarding the approval or rejection of applications for the App Store or informed when an application is approved or rejected," Cicconi said in the letter.
  2. za9ra22 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 25, 2003
  3. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    People keep going after ATT but the question comes is why the hell would ATT care. the only possible loss to ATT from google voice is SMS and even then people already can get around that with email and other systems so a mute point.

    When you make a phone call with Google voice it still uses your plans minutes. Google Voice is not a VOIP
  4. michael.lauden macrumors 68020


    Dec 25, 2008
    who said it was a VoIP and who said it didn't use minutes?
  5. thelatinist macrumors 603


    Aug 15, 2009
    Connecticut, USA
    Hmm. If AT&T didn't quash it and Apple didn't quash it, it must be Google that quashed it.

    Come on.
  6. Kadman macrumors 65816


    Sep 22, 2007
    From Apple's description that sound like what's happening here. It reads like Google strayed significantly from defined standards & allowed methods for interacting with core iPhone functionality that it borders breaking set standards for apps. Note that they report that it's still being looked at and hasn't been formally rejected. I read it as "Google pushed the limits and threw Apple a programming curve they weren't expecting and either a) Apple is genuinely trying to figure out the impact of this drastically different app or b) since they've been so publicly called on the carpet their now looking at it again."

    In the end, there are very few people who know the real truth and they don't want anyone else to know...
  7. kas23 macrumors 603


    Oct 28, 2007
    Correct. The only truth is that none of these 3 corporations are going to reveal the truth.

    If any of you follow the NFL, remember Arlen Specter going after the NFL about the NE Patriots cheating by video taping opponents' practices ("Spygate"). Look what happened to that. Nothing. Swept under the rug. If the government doesn't have any power to change things, who does?
  8. daihard macrumors 6502a


    Feb 19, 2008
    Seattle, WA
    On the other hand, Apple wasted no time approving Google Mobile with built-in voice search, which makes an undocumented and/or non-standard use of the iPhone SDK.
  9. FearNo1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Mar 9, 2009
    I read that with GV app you could also route calls to cell phone to another phone; thus saving minutes. If that is true, then I can see how at+t would not like the app...

  10. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    you could all ready do that on any cell phone. Just took a lot more know how to do it. Google Voice is nothing but a forwarding service.

    You call my Google Voice number and it forwards the call on to any number of other phones so it would call my cell.

    The google voice app all it does is it makes easier to make your out going calls on your cell appear to come from you Google voice number. In other words I would use the Google voice app to call you. On your call id you would see my GV number instead of my cell number. I am still using my cell minutes to make the call.

    Google Voice is not a true VOIP system but instead just a number bridging multiple numbers.
  11. muledogus macrumors 6502

    Mar 18, 2009
    The best part is how Apple says in a nutshell that they don't want to approve anything that hinders the user's experience. Hey Apple, everyone with a Google Voice number and an iPhone WANTS THIS APP!
  12. FearNo1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Mar 9, 2009
    Not only that but the "hinders the user's experience" statement is subjective and ambiguous. That could mean anything... Surely apple thinks iphone owners are idiots... :rolleyes:


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