meh...I don't care. I'll be ditching my iphone when my contract is up. The iphone has become too much of a young/hip/diva/urban symbol for me to want to keep anymore.
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AT&T Exclusivity Expires in 2010, AT&T Asking for Extension?
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That is rather frustrating. I get that with the Pre a lot. Given that it's not an available phone yet, I understand that my liking it is based on the plethora of vids and hands on reviews of pre released models. But to have the arguments against it come from people with the same background, or even worse, claiming an unreleased software update will close the gap is also quite annoying.
He actually makes some sense. Defending Verizon or not.
*buys an airline ticket to New Zealand*
Buddy, i think that people have the impression that only 1 or 2 countries sell authorized unlocked iphones. For everyone here is the list:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937
As others have indicated, I welcome this and hope that Verizon will be one of the carriers.
The only request I have, is that Verizon does not cripple the phone like they do with so many high end handsets they work with.
The only request I have, is that Verizon does not cripple the phone like they do with so many high end handsets they work with.
True but at least if they piss you off that much you can switch, while keeping your phone.
and text and 3000 shared minutes on a family line with my wife who also has an iphone.
Thank you!!! By far my biggest complaint about AT&T's California coverage. How the hell do you not have service on a MAJOR corridor through the state?! I was shocked to see my phone dropping to Edge and then no-service driving from Anaheim to Santa Cruz. No service on I-5?? The Hell?!
T-Mobile's network does not suck, they have 3g & they don't rip off their customers... For the major carries tell me where you can get 1000 min, free nights weekends 400 txt msg, 3g unlimited data plan for $65 a month...
Or Unlimited voice min for $59 a month?
Yeah, man, I know. I live in california, too, and most of the time I don't even have a 3G connection. The phone being 3g really isn't even a feature if there is no 3g connection 70% of the time.
It seems to be easy how the masses forget.
Remember that Jobs pitched the iPhone to Verizon before ATT. Remember, Verizon execs laughed him out of the building. Verizon screwed up in not taking what Jobs had to offer, so why should Verizon get a second shot at something they were stupid enough to pass over the first time?
Verizon blew it. If anything, if Apple were to pull in another carrier, it would be T-Mobile. LTE/4G won't be completely available to the masses until about that time anyway. Rollout is happening (with Embarq/Sprint, IIRC), but no-one else is going to get that or see that for a long time.
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Remember that Jobs pitched the iPhone to Verizon before ATT. Remember, Verizon execs laughed him out of the building. Verizon screwed up in not taking what Jobs had to offer, so why should Verizon get a second shot at something they were stupid enough to pass over the first time?
Verizon blew it. If anything, if Apple were to pull in another carrier, it would be T-Mobile. LTE/4G won't be completely available to the masses until about that time anyway. Rollout is happening (with Embarq/Sprint, IIRC), but no-one else is going to get that or see that for a long time.
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AT&T and iPhone
As long as iPhone stays with AT&T, I will stay with my Blackberry and T-Mobile. AT&T service is bad, over-priced, and their greed is silly. Competition is what we need. Let AT&T keep iPhone, but let others have it too and see who wins out.
As long as iPhone stays with AT&T, I will stay with my Blackberry and T-Mobile. AT&T service is bad, over-priced, and their greed is silly. Competition is what we need. Let AT&T keep iPhone, but let others have it too and see who wins out.
Exactly. Until Verizon changes its ways, I hope it goes the way of Sprint. I know that sounds a bit like anti-trust stuff, but oh well. I hope the next iPhone knocks Verizon, Microsoft, and especially the jerk known as Steve Ballmer backwards in their high back leather chairs and into the electronic walls and MS Surface tables. Not that Verizon and MS are related...just thought I'd get everyone in on that.
Again, another blanket statement. I had T-Mo, w/ BB, Unlimited, and 2 other phones on a 500 Family Plan. No rollover either. The cost per month was $130, and no texting. Now how 700 Rollover, unlimited data on 3 iPhones, each with 200 text/mo, and I pay $170. Granted it's more, but I'm also getting a lot more for that $$$. It's a choice I made. Plus, when we only had 3 bars with T-Mo and Edge, we now have 5 bars, 3G all the time.
Does T-Mo suck? No...just didn't work as well, of give as much as AT&T. I'll re-evaluate at the end of our contract to see what's changes, and if it makes sense to stay. It's not a prison sentence. No one is FORCING you to use ANYTHING.
Better network? Again, in who's opinion? IMO [which everyone has, and we all know what everyone has...
], Verizon and Sprint are horrible, because they don't work in my area. So IMO, Apple is best suited not to put any $/effort into trying to get the iPhone to work on either carrier.Plus, if iPhone does make it to Verizon, say goodbye to a decent UI. You'll get that wonderful VZ red menu/icon theme...BLAH...talk about crap?!
Are folks having any luck using unlocked iPhones with the new T-Mobile 3G service? If so, how is it?
Going to Disneyland?
Yup
It was my very first weekend after purchasing the iPhone that we took the trip down south. The coverage was horrible. I was like, "I left Verizon after 8 years for THIS?!"
Since then I have simply reconciled myself to the fact that Verizon's coverage in Northern California and along the major corridor's is FAR superior to AT&T's. Oh well, "A few bars in a few places" seems to be working ok for now
I'd welcome the iPhone on Verizon but I'm not holding my breath. I just don't think it will happen.
I'm hoping for CDMA support
I'm all Apple except my phone. iPhone for Sprint (or CDMA in general) would make my day! My entire family is on Sprint and I know 3 of the 5 users would go to iPhone right away (me being the first!). I realize this is asking alot, but... One can always dream!
I'm all Apple except my phone. iPhone for Sprint (or CDMA in general) would make my day! My entire family is on Sprint and I know 3 of the 5 users would go to iPhone right away (me being the first!). I realize this is asking alot, but... One can always dream!
No they didn't. Apple and Verizon negotiated off and on for a year. During that time, Verizon never saw an iPhone.
No, again. Verizon usually adds the option of a VZ theme to their smartphones, but you can use whatever theme you want.
If you're going to argue about anything, at least use facts, not myths.
Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate AT$T! I've had them twice now and they've sucked both times. Case in point, I was barely getting adequate coverage in my house when they rolled out 3G. I went to barely 1 bar and had to walk outside alot to get a signal. I called several times and they denied it was anything they did on their side. In fact, one indiot CSR said they could only help me if I called from a landline. When I told him I only had a cell he said I should drive to my sisters, 40 miles away, and they'd try to fix it there.
Funny how one of their VP's, months later, finally admitted network wasn't ready for the surge yet their CSR's were ready for blowing off their customers with their complaints.
I had T-Mobile before and I loved them. I hope Apple allows a choice. Comnpetition is best for everybody!
Funny how one of their VP's, months later, finally admitted network wasn't ready for the surge yet their CSR's were ready for blowing off their customers with their complaints.
I had T-Mobile before and I loved them. I hope Apple allows a choice. Comnpetition is best for everybody!
Not saying you are not right, but I personally have never seen a Verizon phone without aVZtheme.