I think whoever moves from unlimited to their new plans isnt very bright. Dumping them would be the right move, giving in isnt.
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I think whoever moves from unlimited to their new plans isnt very bright. Dumping them would be the right move, giving in isnt.
Its the big 3 in Canada, bell and telus have the same amount of customers. Do a google search, they always talk about the big 3.
Bell has 7.3 million customers
Telus has 7.2 million customers
Rogers 9.3 million customers
Bell uses telus towers where there are no bell towers for there old CDMA networks, the hspa network was built together. I believe there lte towers are seperate as bell offers lte and telus does not.
Anyways you said all the others carriers in Canada use bell and Rogers towers. This is completely false. All the carriers I named have there own towers and occasionally roam on others.
When I lived in Calgary my bell phone worked on telus towers, does this mean bell is not a national carrier?
If telus is not a national carrier nor is bell as they both share each others networks.
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Isn't there some subterfuge required in order to use a Pay As You Go sim with a current iPhone? I mean, if you ask an AT&T rep straight up, here I am with my unlocked iPhone 4S that I've already purchased outright, now please let me buy a Pay As You Go sim from you to use in it, aren't they going to tell you it's not allowed, or that it doesn't work?
I'm in the same boat as you usage-wise. I would love to pay for what I in fact use, rather than be locked into plans with countless more minutes and cell data than I will ever use. Paying the high initial cost of a new iPhone is nothing compared to how much one overpays over the length of a contract, if you're not using the minutes and data.
I actually have an ancient iPhone that I'm still using, but will upgrade to a 4S soon. I haven't researched the Go Phone / Pay As You Go options yet, so no need to spell it all out for me if this information is readily available, but I was under the impression that AT&T can tell which device is using a PAYG sim, and if it was in an iPhone 4S, they'd force you to upgrade...? Can you point me in the right direction?
The only downside I can imagine for a low voice low data user using a PAYG sim on an iPhone 4S is that apparently the "Go Phone" coverage is worse than standard issue coverage, so for rural areas you may not get a signal, where if you were on contract the coverage is better.
Thanks for any insight you have!
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"Customers are using more data than ever before," said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. "Our new plans are driven by this increasing demand in a highly competitive environment, and continue to deliver a great value to customers, especially as we continue our 4G LTE deployment."
AT&T IS CONTRADICTING ITSELF SAYING "CUSTOMERS ARE USING MORE DATA THAN EVER BEFORE" ALL THE WHILE THEY ARE LOWERING THE USAGE THEY START THROTTLING AT. MONTHS AGO THE TOP 5% WERE BEING THROTTLED AT 10GB AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THEY'VE STARTED THROTTLING AT 2GB WHICH MAKES NO SENSE. IF MORE PEOPLE ARE USING DATA IT WOULD DRIVE THE USAGE TOP 5% HIGHER NOT LOWER! IT IS JUST SIMPLE MATH. AT&T IS THROTTLING MORE THAN THE TOP 5% TO BULLY THEM OUT OF THEIR UNLIMITED PLANS INTO MORE EXPENSIVE PLANS. THESE DECEPTIVE PRACTICES SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED BY THE FCC!
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
"Customers are using more data than ever before," said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. "Our new plans are driven by this increasing demand in a highly competitive environment, and continue to deliver a great value to customers, especially as we continue our 4G LTE deployment."
AT&T IS CONTRADICTING ITSELF SAYING "CUSTOMERS ARE USING MORE DATA THAN EVER BEFORE" ALL THE WHILE THEY ARE LOWERING THE USAGE THEY START THROTTLING AT. MONTHS AGO THE TOP 5% WERE BEING THROTTLED AT 10GB AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THEY'VE STARTED THROTTLING AT 2GB WHICH MAKES NO SENSE. IF MORE PEOPLE ARE USING DATA IT WOULD DRIVE THE USAGE TOP 5% HIGHER NOT LOWER! IT IS JUST SIMPLE MATH. AT&T IS THROTTLING MORE THAN THE TOP 5% TO BULLY THEM OUT OF THEIR UNLIMITED PLANS INTO MORE EXPENSIVE PLANS. THESE DECEPTIVE PRACTICES SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED BY THE FCC!
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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This ass backwards excuse is getting tiresome.
How is using what you've paid for, contractually, even remotely considered a bad thing?
Exactly, with the cell phone cartel there's no real competition. All prices are exaggerated.
An Austrian friend pays about $40 for his iPhone with unlimited data and text and 1300 minutes.
He can't believe that the same thing would cost him three time that much in the US.
(Most things are cheaper in the US than in Europe, sometimes substantially cheaper. Only internet access (300% more expensive in the US) and cell phone service (200 to 300% more expensive).
We have a telecommunications problem here, where big corporations have cut out their markets, protected them, and probably have secret arrangements with competitors over pricing.
Also, the service often is sub-par (what many AT&T users will confirm).
We need new laws that free the telecommunications market and have competition there. Otherwise, this part of the US economy will lose more ground to areas like Europe, where the telecommunication infrastructure is much better than the outdated and slow networks we have here in the US.
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Good for you two. Just because you don't have the use for it, or didn't sign up for unlimited, doesn't mean that those who signed up for unlimited should be binned into your usage category.
We unlimited users aren't sitting here blaming you lower-paying people for not paying for our unlimited services and trying to force you into a plan you don't want... so don't do it to us.
typical att. ive been with them since 05' and the service has always been terrible. they have one texting option $20, now they raise the minimum data to $20 but also keep it just low enough that the people buying it either wont use much of it or will go over and buy another $20. counting down the days until my contract expires...
That would be no good. I just switched up to the $25 because it's only $19 after my discount. If they remove the discount I'll be screwed out of the $15 data plan! Where did you read this information and what company do you work for?
The USA has a much higher population density than Sweden according to Wikipedia.
Also, it's about total area, not density. One company doesn't have enough capital to build such a large infrastructure. Upgrade all of America to 4G? It's tough. Besides, it's best to not use mobile internet for anything besides text so you don't waste your bandwidth. Also, in some areas (including LA, where I live), 4G is not actually faster since the bottleneck is at the station's outdated wired connections.
Those ads where people are happy about receiving texts and stuff faster because they are on 4G are total BS. It wouldn't make a difference for a 30-character message.
Free Mobile $25
"Free Mobile sparks French telecoms war"
Not Free but certainly inexpensive
"What has the French in a frenzy? In summary, Niel, at a Paris event launching his new mobile service, said Free Mobile would charge 19.99 a month for a service with unlimited texts, domestic calls and data and free calls to 40 countries in Europe and North America. As FT noted, this compares with 49.40 for an almost identical offer by France Telecoms new low-cost service, SoSh. Free also will be offering an even cheaper deal of 2 for 60 texts and 60 minutes of calls a month.
While the service packages do not include a phone, Free upped the ante with an announcement that it will offer the iPhone 4S starting January 27 as follows:"
http://www.techzone360.com/topics/t...e-makes-life-les-miserables-french-mobile.htm
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7cc58228-3b72-11e1-bb39-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1jyPuswR2
"Free Mobile sparks French telecoms war"
Not Free but certainly inexpensive
"What has the French in a frenzy? In summary, Niel, at a Paris event launching his new mobile service, said Free Mobile would charge 19.99 a month for a service with unlimited texts, domestic calls and data and free calls to 40 countries in Europe and North America. As FT noted, this compares with 49.40 for an almost identical offer by France Telecoms new low-cost service, SoSh. Free also will be offering an even cheaper deal of 2 for 60 texts and 60 minutes of calls a month.
While the service packages do not include a phone, Free upped the ante with an announcement that it will offer the iPhone 4S starting January 27 as follows:"
http://www.techzone360.com/topics/t...e-makes-life-les-miserables-french-mobile.htm
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7cc58228-3b72-11e1-bb39-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1jyPuswR2
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Unbelievable $20-$30 only for data!!!
I wish Mr. Xavier Niel will buy T-Mobile in U.S then sets the low Price like he did in France for $25 a months no contract with unlimited texts, domestic calls and data. I am sure the big three will drop the price.
Unbelievable $20-$30 only for data!!!
I wish Mr. Xavier Niel will buy T-Mobile in U.S then sets the low Price like he did in France for $25 a months no contract with unlimited texts, domestic calls and data. I am sure the big three will drop the price.
I hope they know what they are doing.
It's sort of like the jail breaking phenomenon: The corporation makes changes that about 15% of the active community thereupon spends untold temporal resources trying to get around.
Seems like a lot of wasted effort all the way around, and although I find AT&T service affordable, it's hard not to wonder why service is cheaper and faster in other countries.
It's sort of like the jail breaking phenomenon: The corporation makes changes that about 15% of the active community thereupon spends untold temporal resources trying to get around.
Seems like a lot of wasted effort all the way around, and although I find AT&T service affordable, it's hard not to wonder why service is cheaper and faster in other countries.
No, "you unlimited users" are the ones creating these crappy data plans. The few that abuse something, ruin it for everyone else. Same with the tiered broadband at home they are trying to implement. To stop those 1% that use terabytes of data a month for piracy.
I wonder how this will affect the Data plus WiFi hotsopt? I have unlimited now but if I could get 3GB with WiFi hotspot, I would drop unlimited, I only use 1.2 GB of my Unlimited, I do not need more than 3GB per month then, and I refuse to pay 5GB for $50.00, just wish they would allow you to tether with the 3GB Plan.
Your paying $1 per MB? That's $2048.00 for your 2GB plan! You sir, are getting ripped off. Or just not telling the truth.
Right, because obviously you know AT&T's fixed costs haven't raised and therefore have been maintaining the same fixed cost per subscriber margin this entire time.
NO! No one is "creating crappy data plans"! No one! AT&T is a private company. There is not some public resource that needs to be "managed" or allocated- AT&T is creating their data plans- they are a private company that is in business to make money. They are not in business to manage a resource.
There Is no abuse by anyone unless they are somehow hacking ATT's network. An unlimited plan means you can download as much as you want. The end. AT&T takes it away- that is a market and business decision. Not a punishment.
For crying out loud- they could charge a billion dollars a megabyte to use their network if they wanted to. As consumers, we need to stop buying in to this "we have to do it because some of you are bad" crap! If we do not like att's plans, we simply go with another carrier when our contract is up. That's it.
Data Schmata
If AT&T data management was better with their hotspots, and relay towers, they would not have this issue. Raising the bar? More like raising the linings in their pockets! It took me 3 months of fighting AT&T to FINALLY allow me to cancel service without getting hit with an early termination fee (ETF)! I was a unlimited data user, until they started throttling me. I got throttled every month. And the sad part is you never know when they are going to start. I know, I got the two text messages before they throttled, but come on!. One month I got the texts when I approached 10GB, the next month, was like 5. The last month I got texted-then-throttled - 3.9! That's absurd!
It's like I had been playing the game of baseball with AT&T for 5 years, and all of a sudden this year, they want to change the rules of the game OF baseball. How rude! Phunk Dat!
If AT&T data management was better with their hotspots, and relay towers, they would not have this issue. Raising the bar? More like raising the linings in their pockets! It took me 3 months of fighting AT&T to FINALLY allow me to cancel service without getting hit with an early termination fee (ETF)! I was a unlimited data user, until they started throttling me. I got throttled every month. And the sad part is you never know when they are going to start. I know, I got the two text messages before they throttled, but come on!. One month I got the texts when I approached 10GB, the next month, was like 5. The last month I got texted-then-throttled - 3.9! That's absurd!
It's like I had been playing the game of baseball with AT&T for 5 years, and all of a sudden this year, they want to change the rules of the game OF baseball. How rude! Phunk Dat!
Here we go... I wish more ppl would speak with their wallet instead of just whining. If enough ppl dump at+t, they will listen