AT&T iPhone 5S to SE Question

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by bartonlynch, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. bartonlynch macrumors regular

    Jun 8, 2009
    Kentucky, USA
    Do you all know if someone who got a 5S at Christmas would be able to upgrade to an SE for about the same monthly price on AT&T? I'm (actually) asking for a friend.
    Thanks for any input!
  2. Oridus macrumors 6502a

    Oct 8, 2012
    Probably only a few dollars difference per month on next, however you'll have to pay through your upgrade date if you're on the next program and want to trade the 5s in, or pay off the 5s completely and start a new installment.
  3. grimgreybeard macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2014
    Not worth to "upgrade" - it is practically one and the same, the only noticable difference is ugly and cheap body.
  4. sawah macrumors 6502a


    Sep 13, 2010
    That's not really an answer but a opinion. The SE is a worthy upgrade from the 5s. I came from an 6s and am much more satisfied with the square edges and smaller size. This phone flies.
  5. grimgreybeard macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2014
    It is not an upgrade, but just a new phone. How can device which is practically 1:1 with the previous one be an upgrade?
  6. Qbnkelt macrumors 65816


    Oct 15, 2015
    Not exactly right. There are components from current devices and some carrying over from the 5s, to include 2 GB RAM instead of 1GB.
    Now, honestly, I don't care about specs. Just the overall experience. And the SE's overall experience is perfect for me. Your experience was negative, but that does not translate to an assertion that the SE is basically one and the same as the 5s.
    If your preference is for the 5s, that's fine. But that's a whole other Oprah from a broad generalisation that the SE is practically one and the same as a 5s.
  7. willmtaylor macrumors G3


    Oct 31, 2009
    A Natural State
    "Grim" indeed.

    In fact, most of the internals are from the 6(S), not the 5(S), so "one and the same" is patently false.

    Additionally, while "ugly" and "cheap" are subjective, most opinions I've read agree that the design aesthetics of the 5 series were more luxurious and pleasing than those of the 6 series.
  8. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    Better CPU, GPU, more ram, more features (hey siri, live photos), I'd say its an upgrade.
  9. 617aircav Suspended

    Jul 2, 2012
    Some people want the small form factor. I would not mind the SE but I'm not loosing money to get it.
  10. grimgreybeard macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2014
    5S has Hey Siri too, "faster" CPU and GPU? More RAM? So what? You will never notice it as a regular iPhone user. I didn't notice any boost of performance. I worked 1:1 the same as my 100 years old 5S. This is why I made a decission not to "upgrade". It is not worth to waste £224 just for another 5S, which is called "SE". But if someone has spare money to waste - go ahead! :)
  11. Booloo macrumors regular


    Mar 18, 2012
    Silly how to many this isn't an upgrade due to the same form factor... What about the 3GS, 4S,5S and 6S? Were they not upgrades?

    To me the updated specs is really what makes any phone an upgrade. And considering that a difference in speed and performance is noticeable with a 6 to 6S, then yes, the SE should feel like a huge upgrade to the 5S.

    If I was in the market for a new phone right now the SE would be a no brainier. $399 unlocked from Apple with basically everything you get with a 6S.
  12. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    So basically you don't care about the differences so that makes it the same and thus pointless. Kind of like someone doesn't care about a new sports car with a much faster engine and better transmission and steering and suspension because their old sedan does just fine for their needs of just driving down the street to the grocery store, so that must mean that the two cars are the same, right?
  13. grimgreybeard macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2014
    I had it on my own hands yesterday. There is no noticable improvement of performance unless I don't play some 3D game. As I don't play games, I DID NOT see any speed boost. Sorry for bitter truth. I could't see any point to waste £224 for almost the same device I already have?
  14. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    Like I said, sounds like for you it's not what you need. Doesn't change the actual facts that many comments are different and are much better. That's pretty much all there's to it.
  15. 617aircav Suspended

    Jul 2, 2012
    It's an upgrade to the 5s and 6. That's for sure
  16. Qbnkelt macrumors 65816


    Oct 15, 2015
    No, that's your opinion based on your perception. Truth is empirical, can be tested, can be quantified. You could not see any point, means you did not find a reason. That's not empirical, that can't be tested, and that can't be quantified because it's your decision based on your perception.

    What can be quantified is that there are additional components from newer devices. So again, it is not basically one and the same as the 5s.

    No problem with that. I don't find a need to buy an uber specced phone, but I don't discount their existence. Similarly, just because you don't find a need to get the SE because you did not find it compelling doesn't mean that there are not updated components. And it doesn't mean that someone else might not find those updated components worth 224 sterling.
  17. cvam1985, Apr 1, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 1, 2016

    cvam1985 macrumors regular

    Sep 25, 2011
    Upgraded from my 5S and it is an immediately noticeable improvement in performance. Especially with Spotify and Tumblr. Very happy I upgraded.

    Also "Hey Siri" was only on 5S when plugged in.
  18. RobertBosworth macrumors newbie


    Apr 29, 2016
  19. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    You purchase (or obtain through some other means) the SE and start using it in place of your old phone (like the 5s).
  20. itsray macrumors 6502

    Jun 5, 2016

    the 5s does not have 'hey siri'. also the camera is better. shoots 4k video. and has apple pay
  21. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5


    Nov 20, 2008
    Ventura County
    I noticed the speed performance from the 6 to the 6s. So yes, someone will definitely notice the performance increase from the 5s to the SE. There is no way its a 1:1 "upgrade". The SE is vastly superior to the 5s.
  22. 3568378 Suspended


    Dec 30, 2015
    Orlando, FL
    Silly comment.

    To each his own but I think the iPhone 5S/SE is kind of a work of art to hold - feels very well made and in silver has some really good lines etc. BUT, the bottom line is mine lives in a case 99.9% of the time which is true for most so it's a moot point.

    As far as being one in the same, it's got a faster processor, more RAM and better wi-fi. Now, being that I have the SE and my wife has a 5S I can tell you that in most uses there is hardly a difference in terms of performance, at least nothing noticeable. Sometimes the 5S feels a little laggy when I've been using me SE and pick up hers to do something or another but most times no difference. We don't have games on the phones though, nor do we do a whole lot of media editing so perhaps that's where the difference shows?
  23. rugmankc Contributor


    Sep 24, 2014
    It's plenty enough over my wife's 5, that I will get her one for Christmas. :)

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