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It might just be me, but when O2 enabled MMS shortly after 3.0 was released, well the novelty wore off pretty quickly.
Saying that, I've used Vcards a couple of times and I do enjoy that convenience :]

The novelty does wear off, but it is useful at times. Plus other networks have this available for lesser phones.
 
Epic Fail

So the real question here is why AT&T is spending all this money on new infrastructure and servers to simply move pictures and video around using antiquated MMS infrastructure. The iPhone sends e-mails just fine, right? (Where you're lucky enough to have a signal, of course).

If AT&T were smart, they'd simply work with Apple to provide an experience that looks/feels like MMS but that works over the normal bulk data connection... whether Wifi or 3G... with a back-end gateway to MMS for compatibility with other networks. Likely for a much lower cost and better user experience.

All these companies think technology first... they don't realize customers aren't paying for HOW the data gets from point A to point B... they're justing paying you to get it there.

On a tangental note... for AT&T... customers already have a love/hate relationship with your network. It sucks. But they still pay for it, me included, because it's better than using a payphone. So who cares if the MMS launch goes sour... we're used to it... we're not going to give up the iPhone because it's the first device where we feel like we own IT, instead of it owning us...
 
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I think I hear footsteps; yes, it's VERIZON looking over AT&T's shoulder and laughing....:D
Perhaps.... Than again... Watch them duck and cover as they try and "the nation's largest 3G network" comes crumbling down just as hard.

Granted... I don't know all of the details but my thought would be to throw every $$$ you can absolutely spare to upgrade the network / servers and than just sit back and reap the benefits as everyone cheers despite the huge amount of sales of iPhones add to their network without crippling it. Public view ( opinion ) is your biggest marketing tool. Think of it as partial advertising budget.
 
I'm sick of all the whining about how people wish Verizon would get the iPhone. These same individuals would then piss and moan about Verizon when the network didn't give them what they wanted...which is perfection.

Hmm, perfection? I think I would settle for 3 out of every 4 calls not either dropping, not completing dialing, one side can't hear the other, digital garbling of the voice, or having a howling echo. I'm not even exaggerating about the 3 out of 4, it really is that bad, and I'm right in the middle of Silicon Valley, not like I'm out on the fringe somewhere. It is by far the worst cel network I've ever used. Sure, I would like more bandwidth for internet, Slingbox, etc., but right now I'd settle for just reliable voice calls, which I definitely do not have. I know at least 15 other people with iPhones and most of them have the same complaints, so it's not just me or my phone.
 
Ok so its apparently going to be an over the air update? My phone still does not have the little camera next to the text imput area and I am updated to iphone os 3.1. Is there going to be an iTunes update also?
 
IF, and that's a REALLY BIG IF, I actually get MMS on Friday, I am going to send a hundred pics to 40 different contacts at a time.
 
They had ALL of this time to fix any issues. They even released a video with a guy holding his head cocked to the side, telling me that they had this genius plan all along. They were not working on anything.

If they want to help their network, why not give those mini cell tower things out for free.
 
I don't think AT&T is saying they won't be able to handle the regular MMS traffic, but the massive influx of traffic caused by iPhone users trying out MMS. It's highly likely that even those who have no plans to use MMS in the future are going to at least try it out tomorrow, overloading the servers. This would happen with any carrier. Also, remember the release of the iPhone 3G and 2.0. Apple had big problems with their servers because of the increased traffic. The same thing is going to happen to AT&T's servers tomorrow, possibly on a much larger scale.

I'm not a fan of AT&T either, but it's unfair to say that any issue is because of their incompetence and that Verizon/Sprint/T-Mobile or whatever wouldn't be faced with a similar situation if one of them were the exclusive carrier instead.

i fully intend to send pictures of sticky notes instead of sms messages from now on.
 
Where are all the people who say "nobody uses MMS" and "just e-mail it"?? :rolleyes: Again, it's PATHETIC that att can't handle this... With the iphone having 4.x% marketshare, you'd think the worlds 'most advanced cell phone network' could handle some pics, ESPECIALLY with the many opinions here that nobody will really use the feature that much. Also goes to show that apple couldn't give a sh*t about quality, but instead the bottom dollar, at least when it comes to USING the product.

4% market share, but uses something like 50% of the network's bandwith. Also, the same people who say "nobody uses MMS" are the same iPeople who are complaining about how AT&T won't be able to handle the influx :p

Seriously, this never would have happened if Apple could have just given everyone MMS from the start, like any normal phone.
 
I'm excited to watch them go down in flames on this MMS launch. Hehe. I don't care what people do at this point.
 
Who are they going to use? TMobile. They don't even have a real 3G network yet. And they won't be going to Verizon or Sprint as those are CDMA networks. I think people need to learn that until Verizon rolls out LTE AT&T is the only carrier that will have the iPhone. And LTE is a long way off.

Give me a break. I'm tired of hearing this argument. Verizon from what I understand is trying to rapidly roll out 4G in hopes of the Apple tablet next year.

Maybe that won't happen. So Apple is incapable of making different iPhone versions that runs on CDMA and GSM while every other manufacturer can? Yes, maybe in a couple of years CDMA will be a dead tech. So Apple can't manage to switch the chips once 4G becomes widely available like every other handset manufacturer will have to do? Somehow I don't believe that Verizon will totally ditch CDMA as soon as 4G rolls around leaving a ton of current phones in the dust.

You're painting a picture of Apple as a company that can't walk and chew gum at the same time. It is enough with the excuses already.
 
Note to self: don't expect much out of my iPhone on Friday.


I cannot WAIT until the Apple/AT&T exclusivity agreement is up. AT&T sucks so bad. I can't make calls in my bedroom nor my bathroom. Ridiculous. I lost track of all the dropped calls a long time ago.
 
ATT should have done a 5 day roll out giving access according to location. That way only 1/5 the load would be there on the first day of availability - but hey they never asked me...
 
Quick question. once they turn on the service is there going to be some kind of icon in the message to attach the picture? Seen some users having a little camera on the left hand side... Just wondering on the Iphone 3g model.
 
Hmm, perfection? I think I would settle for 3 out of every 4 calls not either dropping, not completing dialing, one side can't hear the other, digital garbling of the voice, or having a howling echo. I'm not even exaggerating about the 3 out of 4, it really is that bad, and I'm right in the middle of Silicon Valley, not like I'm out on the fringe somewhere. It is by far the worst cel network I've ever used. Sure, I would like more bandwidth for internet, Slingbox, etc., but right now I'd settle for just reliable voice calls, which I definitely do not have. I know at least 15 other people with iPhones and most of them have the same complaints, so it's not just me or my phone.

3 out of 4 I can understand. Here in Kansas City I get a dropped call maybe 3 or 4 times a month and only in certain areas of the city. It used to be that I would have to go outside to make calls (back before the iPhone) but now, solid bars deep inside the abode. I'm sorry for your experience. You'd think a big city area like yours would be covered more than a smaller city like mine.
 
Was it something I said?

Do you think AT&T will be ready?

What if we all did something on our iPhones at exactly the 12PM noon, Eastern Time on September 25?

  1. Choose a photo or video.
  2. Begin to send it via MMS to another iPhone.
  3. While sending, hit the Home button and immediately launch a data-intensive app, anything from Safari loading a web page, to watching a video on YouTube.
You think AT&T's network can handle it?

Muhahahahahaha....

Anyway, I think MMS should be available in this manner:

Depending on the last digit of your iPhone's telephone number, you can send multimedia messages on that day of the week:
0 = Sunday, 1 = Monday, 2 = Tuesday, 3 = Wednesday, 4 = Thursday, 5 = Friday, 6 = Saturday, 7-9 = Use email instead.

Thank you for your cooperation.
-AT&T
 
No cell company in America can handle everyone sending MMS on their iphones at the same time... no way, no how. Once the newness of it wears off it should be ok.
 
Ok so its apparently going to be an over the air update? My phone still does not have the little camera next to the text imput area and I am updated to iphone os 3.1. Is there going to be an iTunes update also?

It will just be a "carrier update" you will plug your iPhone in and it will say there is a carrier update and it will update.

currently we have ATT 5.0 on our iPhone and friday they should release 5.1..
 
waw waw waw ATT, may be ATT should spend some of the large amounts of cash it sucking out of us iPhone users, no sympathy from me, I don't care.

plus I think for maybe the first few days there will be a spike, but after that it will level off, as the novice play around will peatier down to regular traffic.
 
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