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1st, , that's just dandy.. there are so many free options why would anyone subscribe to a paid option.

Oh I dunno, because the artists aren't getting paid jack squat when people use those "free" options. People wonder why music sucks these days. Maybe it's because there's no incentive for talented people to get into the music industry anymore with everyone thinking they're entitled to free music?

As if $99 cents to $1.29 for a song isn't cheap enough with full albums now regularly selling for 20-40% less and still there are bad sales numbers. Now I'll admit, the move away from popular formats like rock to more divisive ones like hip-hop probably also is to blame (i.e. country sales have stayed far more even as their music labels haven't abandoned their country artists like the other major labels have abandoned rock music, which was a mainstream stable from the '50 through the '90s), but certainly, the days of people buying entire albums on any kind of regular basis seems to have been utterly destroyed by online music. Thus, an artist these days can actually have a #1 hit and still be poor given the ridiculously low royalties paid through traditional labels.

The sad thing is that the Internet and self-publication should make this less of a problem. But in reality, as I've found out myself as a hobby, it takes a lot of promotion to get people to even know you exist. Even companies like Pandora have to pick YOU up for you to appear as a "similar" artist that might get some plays. Sadly, stupid videos of "jack arse" type stunts have a far better chance of getting hits or going viral on something like YouTube than a home-made music video. I often wonder how much great music is out there I would like if I only knew it existed. Yes, really popular artists can often make money touring, but lesser known artists would be tossing even more money down the drain. The system is in dire straits.
 
I have bought a yearly subscription to Beats, based on my experience with MOG.

Beats seems to have inherited the MOG library after it bought MOG, but it removed MOG's Artist Radio, which made MOG usable in a Pandora-like fashion, getting the best of both worlds.

Since the removal of Artist Radio, I almost never listen to Beats anymore, even though I have paid for it. Their Sentence feature is a joke and most of the curated playlists are a joke as well.

Beats is so bad that I find that I am back to listening to Pandora most of the time now, even though the streaming quality is lower, at 128k for the free version and 192k for the paid version.

I am not a big fan of Spotify, since their library seems to have less original tracks and more covers (Rdio is similar) than MOG/Beats, but they have a feature similar to Pandora/MOG's Artist Radio so I will probably go with them for a Beats replacement. Pandora has the best song selection algorithm I have ever seen, however.

Beats Music seriously sucks as a streaming radio, or for playlists. Plus they don't even have a desktop app, so you have to play in-browser.

Beats paid $15 million for MOG and ruined it, then Apple paid $3 billion to Beats three month later. :eek:

Fair enough. It sounds like you have a specific liking of radio-style services. Nothing wrong with that.

IMO the key to a revamped music experience from Apple combines the best of Beats and iTunes Radio to deliver the most comprehensive offering on the market. As you've mentioned, no service today has a good mix of both.
 
Next time I see Beats mentioned on the internet, I hope it's followed by "announced desktop App." Don't know why there's an Apple TV App but not a desktop App sheesh
 
the "free option" is ad-ridden, so its not really free because you have to spend your time (time = money) listening to ads



huh? its become the norm for newer independent (not mainstream radio trash) artists to release their music for free online but you pay for merch and concert tickets....

I listen to more music than oh, 99% of the population, little of it mainstream, and other than as the occasional thing, exactly nobody releases their music for free. Very, very few acts will be able to make it beyond an album or two on merchandise and concert sales.
 
What does Beats provide that other music services such as Pandora or Spotify don't? I've never once thought I need a third music service.
Well, according to the graphic, a 5 person plan for a mere $5 more per month, while Spotify has steadfastly refused to acknowledge the existence of families. My 3 teenagers just found Spotify, but I'm not springing for $30/month for music for them, they can hear ads instead, or I'll buy one SACD/month. I might sign us up for $15.

Not that I'd go on ATT. But that's an interesting plan they just dropped.
 
poematik13 said:
why do you pay for music?


Good question. Small investment to eliminate the threat of scummy pirated music sites with a million pop ups.

That is one good answer :) Another is, unless you are a child of the 60s or a grandchild of the 60s, you probably belong to a generation that believes in paying for quality. Millennials and their parents seem to think their labor deserves double the salary and everybody else's labor should be free.

Come on, buy a $2000 computer :rolleyes: but you can't afford $1.29 for a good song?
I will pay for a good album or single song when I hear one. My annual music budget is usually under $100 because quite honestly most music out there just isn't worth listening to anyway.
 
I listen to more music than oh, 99% of the population, little of it mainstream, and other than as the occasional thing, exactly nobody releases their music for free. Very, very few acts will be able to make it beyond an album or two on merchandise and concert sales.

tell that to 90% of the rap industry.
 
Guys in Tapout shirts and pink Beats headphones on their forehead just have to to go somewhere else. AT&T is not in their good books.
 
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It is going to be a rude awakening to discover that your kids don't want your physical goods. Kids these days are growing up in a digital world. They're not going to see the romance in it like you do.

Don't be shocked when they scoff at your stacks of Blu-rays, put back on their Beats headphones, and resume blaring EDM into their ear canals via a music streaming app on their phone.

Not just physical, I keep digital copies of my stuff. My 7 y/o niece is rather into my brothers record collection. At what age will this rude awakening happen? I mean, records are quite old but are still manufactured despite tapes, CDs and now MP3s taking the throne respectively. (not that I'm into records myself)
 
Not just physical, I keep digital copies of my stuff. My 7 y/o niece is rather into my brothers record collection. At what age will this rude awakening happen? I mean, records are quite old but are still manufactured despite tapes, CDs and now MP3s taking the throne respectively. (not that I'm into records myself)

Right around 12 for a girl. You have been warned. (err, maybe you should pass that on to your brother)
 
Right around 12 for a girl. You have been warned. (err, maybe you should pass that on to your brother)

Growing up as a nerd and being one of the first at my school with an MP3 player, I clung onto CDs too, because why not? I was downloading TV shows in the early 2000's and now I buy my films and shows on bluray (for maximum quality at the moment).

And this next bit isn't aimed at you :)
I don't get the homogenised image of everyone going with the flow to ditch physical media. I'm 28 and I still pick up 5-10 games for my old consoles a year (and a lot more for my new ones!), I get my media from a wide range of sources going off if I want them for convenience, quality, or longevity. And the common trait in me and the people I know is we all do it differently. Do some people really live with the thought that everyone is the same, does stuff the same way? (and that use of "everyone" is literal)
 
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