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Umm Google Voice still uses minutes. It is not a data service. It is not like Skype but instead just bridges your number with your google number.
Google Voice would use minutes on incoming calls.

You can use the Talkatone app on an iDevice (iPhone, iPod touch, iPad) for outgoing Google Voice calls that are true VoIP once you have configured and successfully made one Google Voice call via Google Talk.

I've called the United States from abroad this way on my iPod touch via WiFi. No cost.
 
Google Voice would use minutes on incoming calls.

You can use the Talkatone app on an iDevice (iPhone, iPod touch, iPad) for outgoing Google Voice calls that are true VoIP once you have configured and successfully made one Google Voice call via Google Talk.
that is a work around and all GV is doing id bridging the connection between Talkatone phone network.

You are correct about the minutes use. :eek:

However, GV app still uses data.:p

While true it is so minor it is not like it matters.
GV is what I use on my Atrix for my voice mail. I find it to be a much better VVM service than then iPhone's. Notificaitons are just as quick as the network and having the transcriptions done for free as well is nice. Now not the best at getting every word but it is generally close enough for me to get the jest of the message.
 
Note that all the cities AT&T is testing in are relatively flat with small concentrations of buildings.

New York? Too high of a concentration of buildings.
San Francisco? Too hilly
Los Angeles? Both.

Hmm, considering Chicago has the 2nd largest metropolitan area behind NYC, I wouldn't say they are only doing the rollout in small concentrations of buildings. Have you seen the Chicago skyline?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but LTE isn't just about blazing upload/download speeds.... Isn't it also a better system for handling data/voice volume? So your "5 bars but still lousy service" problem might go away when operating on a LTE based network? And yes, I know the US (or anyone for that matter) doesn't have REAL LTE, but the LTE flavor Verizon and AT&T is rolling out is a step in the right direction compared with "marketing" 4G that T-Mobile is using for HSPA+ networks.
 
That's odd, because I too have an HTC Thunderbolt and go to school in a 4G area. My battery lasts a whole day.

Although you have a 4G phone and your school is i a 4G area, it is only when downloading large files or website assets that 4G actually kicks in. Have you tried downloading say a 2 gig podcast whilst in a 4G coverage area? It would be interesting to know how it decreases the battery life.

Phil
 
No major cities = fails.

New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco these are the cities that matter not Chicago, Atlanta and Houston.
The NIMBYs in SF have probably shot themself in the foot. It'll be a while before they'll allow any new towers or modifications to existing ones.
 
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While it's great that 4G is coming to Dallas, I'll probably have to lose my unlimited data plan to sign up for it. :(
For the self-centered who are bitching about the rollout and think that only the east and west coast matters, grow up. :p Apple does their testing in their home area and so does AT&T. If a previous poster was right about Chicago being a testing ground for cellular, then they'd be a good choice to add to the rollout.
 
No major cities = fails.
New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco these are the cities that matter not Chicago, Atlanta and Houston.



Says you.... I bet those in Chicago, Atlanta and Houston would disagree with you. I know nothing matters except what YOU think matters.
 
No major cities = fails.

New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco these are the cities that matter not Chicago, Atlanta and Houston.

I actually agreed, if ATT is rolling out 4G they must have tested it out already and are not using Chicago, Houston, Dallas, etc as Guinea Pigs...

especially Chicago
 
AT&T ... welcome ...

to the 21st century.

Now, if you could only solve that 'dropped call' problem, we'd be happy.
 
I get 2.4 Mbps down and 1.18 Mbps (speedtest.net app) here with AT&T (it is much faster than Edge on T-Mobile here).

fun with numbers.



So with 5 major speed upgrades the last a verbal upgrade from 3G to '4G', they went from 250kbps average to 350kbps.

Whoopdie Freakin' do.

5 upgrades? 4G? You'd think you'd hear the words 'Doubled', or 'Tripled', or 'XX Times faster.' No... 40[.1]% is the speed increase. I'm spending I'm spending $200 a month with ATT, for the last 4 years, and I get '40%'? my stock portfolio did 40% COMPOUNDED annually.
 
Yippee...another "G" that I won't have. AT&T: How about you cover your service area with 3G before you work on 4G? I'm stuck paying for a data plan that is practically useless because of how slow EDGE is.

Bingo......
 
4G service is just compensation for being stuck in Texas.


Enlighten me!!!
Why so many people moan about lack of 4G in next iPhone? Why do you really need it for at current speed demanded by apps or another programs available on iphone? 3G is more than good enough for me and I DO a lot.
The same apply to NFC technology. How many places do you really have (I mean for average iphone user) around you with that technology available to you? Is it safe? Is it? You will change your mind when someone rob you of your money on local bus by using some sort of "smart" device which can read through all NFC devices just like that. Then what? Ooops...we have never thought about that...but... is fixed now-they will say. Yea...until next time.
All what I say is let Apple take time to developed matching and safe technology. There is no need for rush to have it NOW.

I use 4g for tethering to my laptops. I have a Sprint 4g device I use when I need to get out of the lab to stay sane. It is not that much faster than my ATT devices, but it gives you free unlimited bandwidth when in 4G.

ATT 4G should be much faster than Sprint.

NFC should be safe. It will only connect to one device at a time for financial transactions it will ask for a password on your device before it performs a transaction and it will have some kind of conformation code on the vending device to inform you that you are connected to the correct device. I am sure it will also use some form of public/private key encryption.

AT&T is the worst. Their service is absolute garbage where I am, and I don't live in a low-population area. I'm in a major metro area...

How many times to we need to keep saying this, Skunkwood North Dakota is not a major metro area.

:)

That's odd, because I too have an HTC Thunderbolt and go to school in a 4G area. My battery lasts a whole day.

I would not brag about one day. When you can get four days of heavy use per charge, please come back.

Hmm, considering Chicago has the 2nd largest metropolitan area behind NYC, I wouldn't say they are only doing the rollout in small concentrations of buildings. Have you seen the Chicago skyline?

I think they are doing Chicago for the pizza. Chicago is also a great city to make money from gang violence. You can make a fortune sweeping up the brass after a big gun fight.
 
Agreed. Look at Verizon....major fail as they rushed their LTE out (they were forced to,,,,,CMDA was at a dead end). Verizon has had major LTE Network outages and even had to delay the release of LTE phones as a result.

That's odd, since my husband with a Thunderbolt has been thrilled with his LTE coverage in the bay area.
 
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