In New Zealand, that would be stopped pretty damn quickly by the Telecoms ombudsman and by our consumer rights organisations.
Our government forced our telcos to compete country wide so that we have REAL competition.
And our broadband is being paid for by our government, ANY ISP can "lease" capability so that anyone in NZ has access to multiple ISPs offering ADSL/VDSL/Fibre.
I have VDSL running at 70/30 ( and I regularly get 6MB/s downloads, yes that MegaBytes), no data cap, no traffic shaping, no port blocking, no ******** for all of about US$64/month.
Our country would be better off to nationalize all the phone companies like a utility and build one, well built, network. It would be more efficient than the overlapping towers we have now.
There are also many posts throughout this forum of folks, myself included, getting ATT & VZW to waive fees on a regular basis. I just got a $40 fee waived last week.
You're missing the context of my point:We had that with Ma Bell. We really don't want go there again, trust me. As for overlapping towers, many are not owned by the cell providers but by tower companies that lease space so one tower may have antenna from all providers on it. Crown Castle bought ATT and T Mobile towers and Verizon sold theres to American Tower.
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Certainly, but you must ask, and be wiling to walk away if they say no. ART regularly waived fees of provided credits to cover them when I was a customer as well.
Yes, I caught that.
My point was that coverage is the single most important assumption (read: factor) when choosing a provider. For me, at least, everything else is negotiable; my cellular coverage and data speeds are not.
A new line, yes. Swapping a SIM from an old device to a new one, no.
Good for you but not everyone is on a corporate account. It's called a personal phone.Who cares my corp account waives all upgrade and activation fees
Right mine is a personal phone. Corp discount...Good for you but not everyone is on a corporate account. It's called a personal phone.
Glad I'm on T-Mobile...
For Apple users on Verizon and AT&T though, this is about as good an incentive as any to buy your iPhone from the Apple Store instead.
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All of them charge activation fees. T-Mobile's the only one that doesn't charge an upgrade fee, though.
When Verizon buys Yahoo, there's going to be a $50 fee to use it.
Why not keep it $5 less as an incentive? C'mon AT&T, just cause others are doing it doesn't mean you need to match. Its called competition!
Activated 4 phones in the last two months, two needed new SIMs. $0 fees.
That sucks for you though.
"Because we can."
Screw all US Carriers. Where is "Apple Cellular?"![]()
Ah... The hypocrisy of the Apple Faithful as modeled by the company they fawn over.
AT&T raises the price a mere $5 and the faithful spew hate.
Apple raises the price, the faithful swoon and sing “Take My Money“
That's how you and I think, but by and large, only 'hungry' underdogs who want to gain marketshare act in that fashion.Why not keep it $5 less as an incentive? C'mon AT&T, just cause others are doing it doesn't mean you need to match. Its called competition!
I think that T-Mobile actually charges for the SIM Card
Well, the receipt I have says "Activation Fee" on it. Besides, who cares if AT&T charges for the activation and not the SIM, and T-Mobile charges for the SIM and not the activation? Isnt that just parsing of words?
"Let's rip off our customers even more now!"
New catch phrases:
Cricket: **chirp** **chirp** Here's this years ad that we play 5 times a month on low rated channels!
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That's the way it seems to be. I wonder if anyone will be bragging about AT&T's profits?