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For anybody who is using the AT&T wifi calling. If you are talking on wifi and then move out of wifi range, will the call automatically get handed off to a cell tower or will it drop the call?
 
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$110 a month for Gigabit up and down? Freaking sign me up. I wish I lived closer to Orlando where it just went live.

I pay $156/month to not get targeted ads and junk e-mail and snail mail based on websites I visit. It's $30/month cheaper if you consent to get that junk. I pay $149/month for the service and $7/month for the mandatory equipment in Metro Atlanta.
 
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Que? The iPhone 6P has been out for a year, and the 6SP just came out. As for 9.3, yes, I'm a public beta tester.

Pretty sure that's iOS 9.1 beta 3, might want to double-check that. Beta 4 for 9.1 just came out today on public beta.
 
So the problem was that AT&T doesn't have appropriate TTY coverage, and they don't want to implement a new feature while they violate an ADD requirement? What does that have to do with t-mobile and Sprint when they already support TTY?

A better question needs to be asked...

Why does AT&T need permission to offer WiFi calling?
Phone to WiFi connection - already covered
Internet to AT&T - already covered (Really, who among us cares what we send to AT&T, whether it is a complaint letter or a bunch of packets with VOIP information?)
AT&T to PTSN - already covered
AT&T to Cell Network - already covered

I think the best question is... Why are we not reading the articles to get answers to our questions?

To quote 1- AT&T does have TTY. Wifi calling does not. It's an ADA requirement to have it. T Mobile and Sprint do not have it either. AT&T followed the ADA and requested a waiver to implement an updated service. T Mobile and Sprint did not. They instead say it's covered by text messages.

To quote 2- they need permission because wifi calling doesn't do TTY, an ADA requirement.

This isn't that difficult to discern from actually reading instead of jumping to conclusions.
 
I pay $156/month to not get targeted ads and junk e-mail and snail mail based on websites I visit. It's $30/month cheaper if you consent to get that junk. I pay $149/month for the service and $7/month for the mandatory equipment in Metro Atlanta.

I pay Brighthouse $108 a month for 150Mbps and 300Mbps is well over $200.

Is there a data cap for Gigapower?
 
Maybe the asymmetry is due to AT&T deliberately interpreting the Reg's in such a way as to be able to cover for its own failure to implement while using this a a way to try and shame their competition.

Even AT&T's "aw shucks, we have to scratch our head in confusion" seems trite and planned.
 
Yeah... I've had mine enabled since beta, it still works great, just as it did during beta.

I've had wifi calling since beta also, I've notieced when I leave my house and on lte I can't sent sms texts They Come in fine but replies fail Anyone else having that? I have to shut off wifi calling reboot and now as of 9.1 betas had to turn off lte and then the txt sent So they clearly aren't ready for a smooth launch
 
Earlier this week, AT&T announced that it had delayed its promised Wi-Fi calling feature as it had not been able to obtain an FCC waiver that would allow it to temporarily forgo offering support options for deaf and hard-of-hearing people. Following that announcement, the FCC has now granted AT&T's waiver request, allowing the carrier to proceed with its Wi-Fi calling launch plans.

The waiver is available on the FCC website [PDF] and grants AT&T the right to delay implementing a teletypewriter (TTY) service for the deaf until December 31, 2017. AT&T plans to instead use a newer form of communication, real-time text (RTT) as an alternative, and the waiver will allow it to avoid using a TTY service until its RTT service is fully operational.

And they had to get the waiver to be in compliance with the Americans With Disabilities Act, which has very clear and consistent rules for telecom? This law isn't exactly new. It was passed in 1990. Title IV covers telecommunication.
 
Very disappointing. I was really counting on this for use with the Watch.
Well then you might want to hope that after ATT gets off their butts and enables the Wi-Fi calling that they work with Apple to set up continuity over cellular. As far as I know only T-Mobile has it.
 
For anybody who is using the AT&T wifi calling. If you are talking on wifi and then move out of wifi range, will the call automatically get handed off to a cell tower or will it drop the call?

It connects flawlessly. I was on a call the other day on wifi calling at home and left and was down the road before I even realized I was out of wifi range and there hadn't been so much as a quiet spot in the call. wifi calling the way they have it implemented so far works great and I'm in a very small rural town. If it can work this flawlessly here it can work great almost anywhere.
 
For anybody who is using the AT&T wifi calling. If you are talking on wifi and then move out of wifi range, will the call automatically get handed off to a cell tower or will it drop the call?

I am not 100% sure on this but I thought I read a few weeks ago that it will hand off to a tower seamlessly as long as you're in an area that has VoLTE (HD Voice) coverage. I believe if you're in an HSPA+ or 3G voice area, the call does drop when you leave Wi-Fi.
 
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Just stop AT&T. You're not the school yard snitch.

Someone has to be the whistle blower
If John Legere @ T-Mobile can cause waves why can't AT&T play hall monitor?


Quit being such a crybaby AT&T.

So other companies getting away with law violations is totally fine then?


What about if you're on an AT&T MVNO like Consumer Cellular? Will it also be enabled for them?

Wouldn't count on it

Classic smoke screen, because they are probably not ready.

They should have just done the same as the others. The FCC would have never even gotten involved.
A waste of time when old technology is proven outdated.

You never know for sure FCC has gone after AT&T and can in theory go after the 2 cariers who basically ignored regulations as they pleased

So the problem was that AT&T doesn't have appropriate TTY coverage, and they don't want to implement a new feature while they violate an ADD requirement? What does that have to do with t-mobile and Sprint when they already support TTY?

AT&T's point is that both of those cariers launched the features w/o approval and without proper proof their WiFi Calling Features reliably support TTY thus both cariers blatantly disregarded regulations and could/should be subject to penalties


I've had wifi calling enabled with AT&T since iOS 9 came out. Am I missing something here?

See above reply.

And the old thread where it was delayed in being rolled out publicly

http://dlvr.it/CKrvMw


Basically some people had it disabled in iOS 9, or weren't able to enable/re-enable it or modify info on 911 settings for the feature
 
Oh............ so *NOW* AT&T cares about laws and regulation? It sounds like AT&T didn't want to implement this functionality any time soon, and now with the FCC effectively saying, "you are good to go," it seems like they still are looking for an out and not implementing this functionality.

AT&T: We want to do it by the book. Even if the FCC says we can, we will not until we do it by the letter of the law!
 
To everyone suspecting ATT isn't ready, you do realize they already had it up for the beta users, right?


People either don't know, don't care or have other reasons for not getting in on it but yea with dev and public Betas the options are ( or were ) open to many
all you needed was iOS 9 or 9.1 beta versions and voila


So I guess it was okay for them not to follow FCC buildings the other countless numbers of times.

FCC Buildings?
Also what incentives does ATT have to follow or break rules?

They break rules people and other carriers get pissed

They follow the rules people still get pissed because it's an inconvenience and call em cry babies?! Either way they can't win

Should other carriers get away with violating regulations? Heck no

Yeah... I've had mine enabled since beta, it still works great, just as it did during beta.

Same here! Kept it on w/no intention of ever letting it get disabled

This might be the thing that keeps me on AT&T. Their service is okay except in my house. I tried the microcell but it never worked all that well. The call quality was terrible. Please let Wifi-Calling be good. And soon.

MicroCell and devices of the sort are hit or miss gambles at best. WiFi Calling so far seems pretty darn good as long as you can connect to a compatible at least semi decent WiFi source


Lower WiFi network strength and or crappy providers can certainly deteorate the call quality

I'm not defending AT&T, but there is a world of difference between a limited-distribution beta test and "it's ready for everyone with an iPhone."

Although it was a Beta feature because iOS 9 and 9.1 Beta's offered a PB there's NO Reason everyone couldn't of gotten on the band wagon provided they met all the minimum criteria ( service compatibility in their area ) and they didn't mind joining in on Beta


Many testers/users found loopholes and tricks to get the feature working and some still have it working just fine it's not ideal but there's ways to make it work w/o waiting on general rollout or at least there were


What exactly is the benefit of Real Time Text anyway? I LIKE being able to fully compose a thought before sending a message. I don't WANT people to be able to see what I'm typing as I'm typing (including all the typos, times when I decide to use a different word, etc.)

Why is RTT such a huge deal? Is there something about being hearing impaired that makes you want to use it more?

RTT = a wider more user friendly less arcain more modern and hopefully more widely compatible alternative to TTY.

AT&T is basically trying to be a trailblazer or innovator of sorts

Not sure if I understand this thread. Don't we already have this?

The article or the feature?
If the article/thread old one was about the delay

If the WiFi Calling feature it was and still is limited to iOS Beta testers in either Dev or Public Beta's some however had their ability to use it disabled temporarily


The iPhone 6P has been out for a year, and the 6SP just came out. As for 9.3, yes, I'm a public beta tester.
Works on my 6P running iOS 9.3.

Looks like you both had some miscommunication iPhone 6P
Means 6 plus 6SP = 6S Plus

That being said iOS 9.3 is nowhere near public Beta you must mean
iOS 9.1 PB ( Public Beta ) 3
 
wifi calling is good. AT&T should implement it.

They have ( unofficially) the catch is be in or join Dev or PB Beta Testing programs. Full Rollout to the public hopefully not far off

It's already working for me.. I'm in Lakeland florida

Working for me too in PA fine on every iOS version from iOS 9 Beta 3 to iOS 9.1 Beta 3

How can I choose no to block vowifi?

*Not

And it should be somewhere in your online or in APP Features management if not you may need to contact Customer Care.

For best CC/CS results I advise contacting their Twitter and having the Twitter rep call you better chance of getting a supervisor or someone with knowledge and better tools to assist you


I love reading the posts of MR members who know nothing about an issue and yet act as if they completely understand it.

Lol same here. Been doing that since joining MR Earlier this year and enjoying how people just users based on username *rolls eyes* side note love yours. Quite clever and unique


I will happily accept ATT wifi calling, but would prefer they spend some of my money adding cell towers so that they actually have [usable] service between Madison and Eau Claire. I drive from Chicago to Minneapolis, and further north, and for a good 90 minutes (at 75mph) two to three times a month, I barely get edge network service. I get that there are more cows in this area than humans, but it is a major highway between large cities (Chicago and Minneapolis) and not having service in this day and age is ridiculous.


Perhaps all of the ATT users in your area should come together petition and complain non stop till they at least acknowledge the issue and put it on their "to do list of upgrades"


so wait, people still use their phone to make calls?

Hoping this is sarcasm or joking

If not of course calls will always be 1 of the points of having a phone


For anybody who is using the AT&T wifi calling. If you are talking on wifi and then move out of wifi range, will the call automatically get handed off to a cell tower or will it drop the call?


It's a 50/50 gamble usually pretty good though. Depends on a variety of factors though surely

Network strength/coverage, if you area had VoLTE or HD Voice ( helpful but not a must ) and possibly other factors

For some of us it works well on the handof/handover heck for me knock on wood unlike MicroCell it actually hands off both ways so far

( Mobile Reg Network to WiFi or WiFi to Network )

Not to Hijack this thread, but any word on verizon wifi calling?

Nope. In fact while the majority of whiners are bemoaning and nitpicking AT&T the fact that Verizon is dragging their heels more than anyone else is pretty overlooked


Maybe Verizon thinks this is the tortoise versus the hare lol


I've had wifi calling since beta also, I've notieced when I leave my house and on lte I can't sent sms texts They Come in fine but replies fail Anyone else having that? I have to shut off wifi calling reboot and now as of 9.1 betas had to turn off lte and then the txt sent So they clearly aren't ready for a smooth launch

It's looking like it could be an iOS 9.1 bug ( I'll be submitted more reports in the feedback app )

Sometimes throwing the phone in and out of Airplane Mode can be a decent faster fix

Also wouldn't advise turning off WiFi calling lest you lose the ability to use it temporarily


Oh............ so *NOW* AT&T cares about laws and regulation? It sounds like AT&T didn't want to implement this functionality any time soon, and now with the FCC effectively saying, "you are good to go," it seems like they still are looking for an out and not implementing this functionality.

AT&T: We want to do it by the book. Even if the FCC says we can, we will not until we do it by the letter of the law!

At least they are following the law now.
Also there seems to be a lot of conclusion jumping in the comments here and on the old related articles

Who's to say for sure WiFi Calling Full public rollout won't happen soon?


Maybe there's just a few minor last minute touches to add


A few more network expansions/upgrades to handle call handoff, billing system adjustments, switch flipping



Maybe finishing up an ad campaign to run in time for holiday shopping and try to encourage new customers to join



Maybe waiting for replenished shipments and stock of iPhones because demand is high as heck and it's the only device supporting ATT WiFi calling at all
 
Is there any way to give this Jim Cicconi feedback? I'd like to give him a piece of my mind. Pretentious ******* ****.
 
ATT, you've run out of excuses, kindly S.T.F.U and get this service up and running.

Sincerely,

Everyone
 
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