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SFStateStudent

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this summer? I said "yeah" if they release one. He also mentioned that Apple and AT&T will sell the new iPhone to any customer that currently owns a v1 iPhone or the 3G iPhone and waive the requirement that they be at least 18 months into their contract. I was a bit skeptical, but invited the rumor or skuttlebutt at this point, since it's so late in the year with regards to rumors about a new iPhone....:eek::eek::eek:
 
Well I sure hope the do a little "sum-sum" on the side for current iPhone owners. I've only had my 3G since December and if (more like when) the new iPhone comes out and if it's the BIG improvement like we think...Well lets just say I'd like to ditch the 3G but I'm nowhere near eligible for upgrade yet so this would be great if true.
 
yea, he may be right, but he doesnt know. they dont send out any information until after the keynote when they announce it.

and the iphone 3G is a subsidized phone so they wont just LET anyone who has it upgrade, have to be eligible because att is taking such a hit on the cost they have to make it up over time.
 
that's funny, cause there's another thread on here where a ATT rep said there won't be a new iphone this year. (i don't think they know what they're talking about.)
 
that's funny, cause there's another thread on here where a ATT rep said there won't be a new iphone this year. (i don't think they know what they're talking about.)

AT&T reps don't know anything. I went into an AT&T store last week and the rep knew nothing about the iPhone OS 3.0.
 
and the iphone 3G is a subsidized phone so they wont just LET anyone who has it upgrade, have to be eligible because att is taking such a hit on the cost they have to make it up over time.

Yeah, but you have NO IDEA what that cost is.

Apple says they'll have to sell them for $699 unlocked. AT&T sells them for $299. Does that mean AT&T gave Apple $400? Heck no. There's some magic number between there that they pay, and netiher you nor I no what that is.

So what DO they pay them? What if it's $100? (As a random guess) What if AT&T lets 3G users upgrade if they pay that extra $100 and extend their contract 1 year? Then AT&T gets some cash to cover the fist phone, and they've just locked you in for one more year which will easily make up the cash for the 2nd phone. It's win-win for them in that case.

So in that case, an upgrade option is VERY likely! Now, I have no idea what the magic number is, so I can't say that this will happen. But it's also true that you don't know what the magic number is, so you can't say it WON'T happen!
 
Well, I can only speak about our conversation and share that with MR. He did show me his 3G iPhone with 3.0, and I've known him personally for about 15 years and he's been an AT&T representative for about 8 years, so I guess that only provides ethos for ME.....:eek::eek::eek:
 
Well, I can only speak about our conversation and share that with MR. He did show me his 3G iPhone with 3.0, and I've known him personally for about 15 years and he's been an AT&T representative for about 8 years, so I guess that only provides ethos for ME.....:eek::eek::eek:

Well, the reason I believe him is that AT&T really really wants Apple to extend their contract since the iPhone is brining so many customers into AT&T. So prepare to see AT&T do some crazy things that make Apple happy (such as boosting their 3rd gen iPhone sales through the roof by encouraging re-sales to last year's buyers.)

This means that I fully believe AT&T will be willing to LOSE money in the short run if it gains them more customers, many of whom won't switch even after the iPhone opens up (because people are lazy).

So all the "AT&T has to make money" arguments don't hold much water for me. I'm betting that for 2009 and 2010, they actually DON'T have to make money. This is long-term strategy for them.
 
Yeah, but you have NO IDEA what that cost is.

Apple says they'll have to sell them for $699 unlocked. AT&T sells them for $299. Does that mean AT&T gave Apple $400? Heck no. There's some magic number between there that they pay, and netiher you nor I no what that is.

So what DO they pay them? What if it's $100? (As a random guess) What if AT&T lets 3G users upgrade if they pay that extra $100 and extend their contract 1 year? Then AT&T gets some cash to cover the fist phone, and they've just locked you in for one more year which will easily make up the cash for the 2nd phone. It's win-win for them in that case.

So in that case, an upgrade option is VERY likely! Now, I have no idea what the magic number is, so I can't say that this will happen. But it's also true that you don't know what the magic number is, so you can't say it WON'T happen!

i worked for att and had our cost sheets for every phone, 8GB was 574 and 16GB was 674, thats what att paid for each one, i was surprised
 
Asking a low level AT&T rep about the future release of a new phone is like asking a flight attendant about the future purchase of new airplanes.

There's just no way they would know...in fact I think its not even up to AT&T right now...I'd imagine the ball is still firmly secure in Apple's court.

If any of that made sense.
 
AT&T reps don't know anything. I went into an AT&T store last week and the rep knew nothing about the iPhone OS 3.0.

If any rep actually knew we would all know as well. I think it's funny that people expect that a rep (basically a minimum wage employee) would know something like this. If the rep knew, then the UPS guys would probably know as well - I mean, they're the ones that are going to be shipping the units to the stores, right?
 
Well, the reason I believe him is that AT&T really really wants Apple to extend their contract since the iPhone is brining so many customers into AT&T. So prepare to see AT&T do some crazy things that make Apple happy (such as boosting their 3rd gen iPhone sales through the roof by encouraging re-sales to last year's buyers.)

This means that I fully believe AT&T will be willing to LOSE money in the short run if it gains them more customers, many of whom won't switch even after the iPhone opens up (because people are lazy).

So all the "AT&T has to make money" arguments don't hold much water for me. I'm betting that for 2009 and 2010, they actually DON'T have to make money. This is long-term strategy for them.

I want some of what you've been smoking!
 
Why do so many people think sales reps know anything? This person probably learned what he/she knew from reading boards like this. In other words, he/she didn't "know" anything.

It's pretty much a given that some change will be made this summer. That's like guessing that EA Sports will release a new Madden game. The details are known by few and are all speculation outside Cupertino.
 
So all the "AT&T has to make money" arguments don't hold much water for me. I'm betting that for 2009 and 2010, they actually DON'T have to make money. This is long-term strategy for them.
This logic is not surprising from someone from Washington, DC.
 
Cool I canceled my contract and then came back last october and had a 3G so that's good to know they'll waive the fee.
 
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