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Use a VPN

If you are on Verizon find a way to use a VPN.
My ISP offers one for the primary account user.

CyberGhost is a good VPN (free for Android, Mac and Windows).
iOS requires a subscription.

I now use a VPN almost all the time.
 
they'll find another way. everything you do online is tracked everywhere. period.

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If the data is running over HTTPS or through a VPN tunnel then there is no way for them to inject the perma-cookie.

is HTTPS as effective as VPN? in other words, if you simply use HTTPS for all URLs you visit, will that take care of any tracking? it will still use your IP so I'm assuming no.

also, can any and every site utilize HTTPS?
 
AT&T's customer tracking practices, called "Relevant Advertising," were the result of a pilot program the company had been experimenting with, which has apparently come to an end.

Pilot program? Suuuuuuuuree...

It's more along the lines of "Oh ****, we got caught!".
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Any information about you is the last sole thing that you have and it's the one and only thing that most organizations want from you (after your money of course).

unfortunately information about you or anyone is not yours, it's just data. Morally and socially no one wants to be tracked especially online which most people believe to be private. I don't agree with tracking but it's a reality of the technology, companies are like people they break the law and push boundaries that give them an advantage in the marketplace.

A successful company by definition will break every moral rule and the ones that don't won't survive.

The headline should read, AT&T find secret method to track without cookies so users won't know. Stops using old method as a PR stunt.
 
All this tracking toward customized ads is so obvious and tedious. If I search on any product, that product is shown time and again within Internet forums and other places I visit.
 
The strange thing here is if they are sending poeple ads from sites they have search, how about all those poeple that have searched the dirty sites? I don't see them sending any ads for that? Hmmmmm???? No discounts or coupons???
 
AT&T and Verizon may have stopped using Perma-Cookies finally, but I'm sure they have some other secret and nefarious activities going on with our phones. Once a slimeball company, always a slimeball company.

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A company that is worst than Comcast!? Amazing!

Seriously, it's the biggest scam company going!

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Genocide is evil.

And so was Charles Manson, but it's still crappy that our mobile carriers will try to make money off of us either directly or indirectly, without concern for their paying customer's privacy. (And yeah, genocide is pretty bad.)
 
All th complaining here is comical seeing as I bet most of those complainers are probably facebook users which is the ultimate personal data whore on the planet. Zuckerboy and his minions have become filthy rich off of YOUR data which you just hand over every day.

Just saying. :rolleyes:
 
is HTTPS as effective as VPN? in other words, if you simply use HTTPS for all URLs you visit, will that take care of any tracking? it will still use your IP so I'm assuming no.

also, can any and every site utilize HTTPS?

The site operator has to enable HTTPS/SSL. With most web servers, it is easy to do it, but they need an SSL certificate, which is not free.

They can use a self-generated certificate, but your browser will warn against trusting it.
 
they'll find another way. everything you do online is tracked everywhere. period.

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is HTTPS as effective as VPN? in other words, if you simply use HTTPS for all URLs you visit, will that take care of any tracking? it will still use your IP so I'm assuming no.

also, can any and every site utilize HTTPS?

HTTPS and VPN Explained in Simple English

For providing a secure connection to the websites that you visit they are both acceptable to use. They are both very different in how they work and the type of security offered. You can also tunnel HTTPS traffic over a VPN connection taking advantage of both.

In order to use HTTPS the site that you are visiting has to have configured the site to for HTTPS. It is not something that you can just choose to use if the site has not enable/configured it.

In the past several years there has been a push for HTTPS everywhere and I have been noticing that many more site that I frequent are going all HTTPS.
 
End corporate stalking

IMO anytime a corporation wants to use your data or metadata, the end-user should be clearly and concisely informed, in plain language, and must give explicit permission to 'opt-in'.

If I'm paying for a service I expect to only receive that service and not become an unwitting de facto product being unknowingly sold by that corporation.

Anything else is tantamount to fraud by invasion of privacy.
 
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I just checked on my Verizon phone and it doesn't show any tracking. But not saying that Verizon isn't evil because they are very evil and greedy.
 
HTTPS and VPN Explained in Simple English

For providing a secure connection to the websites that you visit they are both acceptable to use. They are both very different in how they work and the type of security offered. You can also tunnel HTTPS traffic over a VPN connection taking advantage of both.

In order to use HTTPS the site that you are visiting has to have configured the site to for HTTPS. It is not something that you can just choose to use if the site has not enable/configured it.

In the past several years there has been a push for HTTPS everywhere and I have been noticing that many more site that I frequent are going all HTTPS.

thanks for the link.
 
The site operator has to enable HTTPS/SSL. With most web servers, it is easy to do it, but they need an SSL certificate, which is not free.

They can use a self-generated certificate, but your browser will warn against trusting it.

Adding SSL to a site used to add load to the server, although with improvements with TLS, faster processors, etc., it is now negligible. I've found however that people still think its going to cause issues on their servers and are resistant to making the change, so there is some educating that has to happen with most site owners.

Another consideration is caching, a lot of caching systems by default won't cache anything if the connection is SSL. So you have to take that into consideration. If you flip the switch and then all of your traffic starts bypassing the cache it could cause some serious issues.
 
I wonder how are they called now, ATT stopped tracking customer's activity? Yeah right
 
Carriers should be carriers, not advertisers, not marketers, not content or applications providers!

If they spent all the effort and investment they put in to their "non-core" business' on providing better service no one would be complaining about them.....

This is the most ridiculous post I have seen in quite a while.

#1 - If they are just "carriers" then they would need to charge more which would bring the mass complaining to a new level.

#2 - Name a business that does not collect data. They all do. (especially APPLE)

#3 - Maybe Apple should be computer makers or iDevice makers and stay out of advertising, marketing, and payment systems.... (same philosophy applies)

#4 - You are clueless as to how much all carriers put into evolving technology, expanding coverage, etc.

#5 - Yes, everyone will complain even if they do everything you say. People complain and they want companies to provide stuff at no profit. Maybe these complaining folks should work for no profit.
 
This is the most ridiculous post I have seen in quite a while.

#1 - If they are just "carriers" then they would need to charge more which would bring the mass complaining to a new level.

#2 - Name a business that does not collect data. They all do. (especially APPLE)

#3 - Maybe Apple should be computer makers or iDevice makers and stay out of advertising, marketing, and payment systems.... (same philosophy applies)

#4 - You are clueless as to how much all carriers put into evolving technology, expanding coverage, etc.

#5 - Yes, everyone will complain even if they do everything you say. People complain and they want companies to provide stuff at no profit. Maybe these complaining folks should work for no profit.

I responded to this post in a douchey way and it was deleted (as it should have been) so I'll try to comply with the rules of this forum and hopefully contribute something of value. I have worked in telecom for 20 years (no longer though, but thats another story) mainly in strategic development and corporate planning for 3 letter telecoms and ILEC's supporting M&A, capital deployment, and new business development (regulated and non- regulated services).

#1 - If they are just "carriers" then they would need to charge more which would bring the mass complaining to a new level.

No, gross margins on "large" traditional telco/ISP/Cable services are in excess of 30%. The cash flow generated from these services have been diverted from capital investment in "core" services (Voice/Data) to new services "vertical" investments in content and services. The hikes in costs has driven revenue away from basic service maintenance and capital improvement causing a decline in service quality. The underlying reason why this is happening is because every ISP/cable/telco provider sees the enormous amount of money being made in silicon valley and they think they can do the same. The only problem is that they have an enormous amount of cash flow and very limited experience in VC. The result is a bunch of "Dud products" that are only kept alive by by carrier exclusive status. look at an AT&T or Verizon android phone and you will see the bloatware that is a product of this investment.....

#2 - Name a business that does not collect data. They all do. (especially APPLE)

Yes, but do they sell the data? It's one thing to use user data for the basis of product improvement (bug fix reports or usage reports for features or usability development) as opposed to as a revenue stream for further revenue stream (like Facebook). Apple from what I have found keeps its data collection internal for product development with limited sharing with partners.

#3 - Maybe Apple should be computer makers or iDevice makers and stay out of advertising, marketing, and payment systems.... (same philosophy applies)

As to advertising, it depends how the data is shared and used. its one thing to drive ad placement it's another thing to sell the individual user information to third parties (data brokers) like AT&T and Verizon does. Once data is sold to these data brokers there are no controls on how it will be used. This is becoming a big issue. Data brokers have no FISA court (not like that worked) and little or no legislation regulating how they manipulate the data. Think of what it's like to get your credit report and finding errors, now imagine that you apply for a job or a mortgage and you get turned down or have to pay a higher interest rate and there is no real way that you can review and or correct any errors or understand who has accessed and used your data. I'm not a Tin Foil hat kinda guy but I have talked with a few of these data brokerage companies both as a supplier and a customer and felt really icky afterwards.... The link below gives a high level overview.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/t...nsumer-database-marketing.html?pagewanted=all

#4 - You are clueless as to how much all carriers put into evolving technology, expanding coverage, etc.

No, Like I said before I have worked for 20 years in this industry including setting up and deploying long haul optical networks, metro networks, leasing (IRU's) and selling dark fiber for domestic (ILEC's and CLEC's) and international companies (CLEC). If you ever want to talk about DWDM deployments or the cross connect market you would find out that I am pretty well versed on both the capital and revenue side of this business.

#5 - Yes, everyone will complain even if they do everything you say. People complain and they want companies to provide stuff at no profit. Maybe these complaining folks should work for no profit.

There is a ton of profit in core services (see #1) and with smart capital deployment margins can be increased and service can be improved. I suggest that you read the 10K's from Comcast, AT&T, and Verizon and you will see where the money goes...... As to "complaining," wireless, ISP, and cable services sucks here and could be so much better. If a customer can't insist on better service from a company there is something terribly wrong.
 
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