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No... when you consider the $36 upgrade fee and minimum 1 month service requirement, it's about a break-even with the ETF.

$10/month x 24 montbs plus $36 upgrade equals $276

Remember the ETF $325. U are still paying the same $36 upgrade regardless. So $325 plus $36. So it's really $361.

$361 vs $276 is a big difference.

And forget taxes on the ghost lines since 60-88% of people have family line or discounts. So most have 15-25% discounts. So $10/month is truly $10/month.
 
Huh? Any way you slice it, a family saves money on T-Mo on the monthly plans.

You do have a point with device pricing, but T-Mo will still offer subsidized pricing on the old model and allow you to sign a contract, it's just most people don't do it so they don't really advertise it.


once you add more LTE data than the standard 500MB and add the device pay back i'm already at what i pay AT&T or maybe $10 savings. and with AT&T there are lots of retailers always having sales on different devices, not so with t-mobile. especially not their new plans, you have to go through t-mo
 
Glad I have a grandfathered AT&T plan. Though, I would switch to TMO if only the coverage were better in/around my neighborhood in Brooklyn. Hopefully it'll get better and I'll be able to move over. I really like what TMO is doing.
 
Still doesn't beat the $30 plan I have on Tmo in the US---unlimited data/texting and 100 mins (which can be easily worked around). In major cities, I get unlimited LTE, and only in desolate areas that I've visited do I switch to E.

I feel sorry for those who are stuck with Verizon or AT&T because that's the dominant carrier/coverage in their area. Verizon and AT&T are awful companies.
 
Back in the days when T-Mobile and AT&T had roaming agreements, this wouldn't have been a problem. But for people who travel in the US, I'd want something more robust than T-Mobile.

I believe that they do have an agreement. I think there was a little while that they didn't but it's back on now.
 
I've been with AT&T since the first iPhone in 2007. I don't use my iPhone for voice very much. I had a 450 voice minute plan but I downgraded to 300 peak minutes per month (5,000 minutes nights and weekends). I still usually roll over about 150-200 minutes every month so I've always got over 1,000 minutes in the bank, just in case.

I'm grandfathered in on the 200 text messages for $5. I'm also grandfathered in on unlimited data.

Unlimited data: $30
300 minutes: $29.99
200 text messages: $5

Total monthly bill: $64.95 plus taxes.

AT&T better never take it away because I'd switch to Verizon in a heartbeat!

Mark
 
I've been with AT&T since the first iPhone in 2007. I don't use my iPhone for voice very much. I had a 450 voice minute plan but I downgraded to 300 peak minutes per month (5,000 minutes nights and weekends). I still usually roll over about 150-200 minutes every month so I've always got over 1,000 minutes in the bank, just in case.

I'm grandfathered in on the 200 text messages for $5. I'm also grandfathered in on unlimited data.

Unlimited data: $30
300 minutes: $29.99
200 text messages: $5

Total monthly bill: $64.95 plus taxes.

AT&T better never take it away because I'd switch to Verizon in a heartbeat!

Mark

verizon costs more
 
Really? You make and receive calls from your iPad Mini and ditched a smartphone? That makes no sense. I can understand some of the Android tablets with true built in voice functionality, but an iPad is not a good phone. God forbid you ever have an emergency and can't find a headset (or are unable to speak since there's no way to transmit e911 data from an iPad using third party voice services). Oye. Scary.

Yup. My ipad mini is about the size of some of those large samsung smartphones. Lol. Seriously. I travel a lot. I always have my backpack, and even when I don't, my ipad mini fits into my coat pocket. I have a free google number. Free voicemail & texting. Why on earth would I pay $150 or more a month for a smartphone plan with data limits? That's what I call dumb. :)
 
Yup. My ipad mini is about the size of some of those large samsung smartphones. Lol. Seriously. I travel a lot. I always have my backpack, and even when I don't, my ipad mini fits into my coat pocket. I have a free google number. Free voicemail & texting. Why on earth would I pay $150 or more a month for a smartphone plan with data limits? That's what I call dumb. :)


i'm seriously thinking of dumping AT&T next year and going prepaid and keeping my phones 3 years or more. i have wifi almost everywhere i go and use maybe 1GB per month. no sense paying all that money when home internet is so much cheaper
 
I sometimes will switch from my $20/300MB-month plan to the $50/5GB-month feature for a few weeks when I travel and need to tether. I can switch back to my regular level at anytime and the charge is pro-rated.

Does this mean I won't be able to do that anymore??
 
Really? You make and receive calls from your iPad Mini and ditched a smartphone? That makes no sense. I can understand some of the Android tablets with true built in voice functionality, but an iPad is not a good phone. God forbid you ever have an emergency and can't find a headset (or are unable to speak since there's no way to transmit e911 data from an iPad using third party voice services). Oye. Scary.
If you cannot talk then chances are you will be dead before help would arrive anyway.

Do you work for a carrier or something?
 
Do you work for a carrier or something?

10 years ago yes. Not anymore.

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Yup. My ipad mini is about the size of some of those large samsung smartphones. Lol. Seriously. I travel a lot. I always have my backpack, and even when I don't, my ipad mini fits into my coat pocket. I have a free google number. Free voicemail & texting. Why on earth would I pay $150 or more a month for a smartphone plan with data limits? That's what I call dumb. :)

I'm fairly certain an iPad mini wouldn't fit in the average person's "coat pocket" .... and even if it did, I'd hardly consider it a viable alternative to a smartphone.

And $150 or more a month for a smartphone with data limits would be dumb... considering T-Mo USA offers $70 for unlimited everything, I'd say your numbers of comparison are off.

But yeah, if you're ok with a half baked solution, go for it. Why not just go with republic wireless where you have unlimited data and unlimited phone calls for $19.99 a month and cut your bill by half? Then you have a real line and real voicemail and are still costing half as much as your unlimited iPad?
 
While this is perfect fodder for AT&T haters, they still operate in the open market.

This will either do well or it won't. That's pure fact. Why there's so many knee jerk reactions here proves that the Apple excuse maker supporters, have no problem with Apple pricing, and no willingness to understand that _all carriers_ want to profit as well.

Today it's AT&T that's leading off with this. But don't kid yourself, if this works well for them, Verizon and others will be hot on their heels.
 
My mom has a dumbphone and for whatever reason, AT&T won't support it on the mobile share plan so if I want to move to it (which makes sense for my wife and me), I need to get a separate account for her phone instead of allowing her to use the shared plan with no data. DUMB!
 
While this is perfect fodder for AT&T haters, they still operate in the open market.

This will either do well or it won't. That's pure fact. Why there's so many knee jerk reactions here proves that the Apple excuse maker supporters, have no problem with Apple pricing, and no willingness to understand that _all carriers_ want to profit as well.

Today it's AT&T that's leading off with this. But don't kid yourself, if this works well for them, Verizon and others will be hot on their heels.

Actually Verizon did this a couple of years ago, if memory serves, AT&T is just following...
 
I am grand fathered and with my 20% discount, I pay $107 per month for two iPhone 5s with 550 shared minutes with rollover, one phone with unlimited data and the other with 2gb data. It looks like the new plans are ridiculous.

Holy hell, someone else from Melbourne. Didn't think anyone else from this town existed on the internet. :)
 
Still clutching onto my unlimited grandfathered data plan on AT&T. I could probably save $10-15 a month going with mobile share but I can't convince myself to give up the unlimited data.

They'll have to pry my unlimited data out of my cold, dead hand!!!

Actually, I'm pretty non-confrontational, so I'd cave at the first sign of resistance.
 
I can't imagine how AT&T thinks everybody needs unlimited minutes and unlimited texts...

They don't, but they do know that minutes and texts cost them virtually nothing.

I've looked at the share plans and I'm also in the 5%, bumps my monthly cost up by about $45/month for 2 smart phones (3GB data each) and 2 feature phones. All with unlimited texts and unlimited mobile-to-mobile.
 
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