AT&T to Face Net Neutrality Complaint Regarding FaceTime Over Cellular Limitation

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Late last month, we noted that net neutrality organization Public Knowledge had accused AT&T of violating Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rules in limiting use of the forthcoming FaceTime over Cellular feature in iOS 6 to customers on the carrier's new Mobile Share plans. AT&T responded to note that it was within its rights to block FaceTime over Cellular for customers on other plans because net neutrality regulations do not apply to apps that are preloaded on devices as seen with Apple's FaceTime app.


    GigaOM now notes that Public Knowledge has banded together with Free Press and the New America Foundation's Open Technology Institute to notify AT&T that they will indeed be filing a net neutrality complaint with the FCC over the issue.
    The press release is a required 10-day advance notice of the intended action, with the group saying that the complaint will be filed "in the coming weeks".

    Article Link: AT&T to Face Net Neutrality Complaint Regarding FaceTime Over Cellular Limitation
  2. gmanist1000 macrumors 68030


    Sep 22, 2009
  3. ouimetnick macrumors 68020


    Aug 28, 2008
    Beverly, Massachusetts
    Hope AT&T either changes their choice, or pays for it! Greed at it's finest!
  4. Swerthy macrumors member

    Jun 17, 2012
    So what are the chances of AT&T actually giving people FaceTime who are not on the new shared data plans?
  5. aziatiklover macrumors 68030


    Jul 12, 2011
    Location: and
  6. rei101 macrumors 6502a

    Dec 24, 2011
  7. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
  8. paul55br macrumors member

    Feb 23, 2012
  9. NachoGrande macrumors 6502a

    Mar 30, 2010
    I am happy with AT&T and never had a complaint, but that is a crappy move on their part. It's our data to do with it what we please.
  10. appleguy123 macrumors 604


    Apr 1, 2009
    15 minutes in the future
    If they lose, they'll probably pass the cost onto us, like always. AT&T continues to pass these intolerable acts, and that didn't work out too well for the British.

    I hope to see their downfall in my lifetime. But they're still the only company that is decent in my area.
  11. inlinevolvo macrumors 6502

    Jul 11, 2012
    Dropped these @-holes over a decade ago and haven't looked back.
  12. newyorksole macrumors 68040

    Apr 2, 2008
    New York.
    It's really not fair. AT&T wouldn't let us MMS now we can't FaceTime over cellular
  13. mnsportsgeek macrumors 68000

    Feb 24, 2009
    This is so deserved. I'm glad someone is stepping in.
  14. bbeagle macrumors 68040


    Oct 19, 2010
    Buffalo, NY
    Can't AT&T just slow down the data connection on FaceTime calls, so as to make FaceTime unusable? Maybe so the video updates once every 10 seconds or so.

    There are ways around this that won't please anyone but AT&T.
  15. STiNG Operation macrumors 6502a

    STiNG Operation

    Aug 15, 2012
    The Zoo
  16. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

    Nov 7, 2007
    New Sanfrakota
    Let's be realistic here. It's either that or we lose our grandfathered unlimited data and be forced to switch to the mobile share plan a la Verizon.

    Can't eat our cake and have it too.
  17. rjohnstone macrumors 68040


    Dec 28, 2007
    PHX, AZ.
    I'm no fan of AT&T's BS on the matter, but this quote screams hyperbole.
    It's not like FaceTime is the only option out there.

    Go after AT&T and give them hell, but let's stick to the facts.
    The above quote is nothing more than emotional BS.

    Without a court order... slim to none.

    Really? AT&T had nothing to do with it. MMS was screw up because of the way Apple implemented on the iPhone.
  18. Dokk macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2010
    IA, TX ... I never know
    Seems like that would be just as much of a violation of net neutrality, wouldn't it? Actually, it might even be a bigger violation if I'm understanding the regulation correctly. That said, there's a non-zero probability I'm woefully misinformed. :D
  19. Gulo macrumors member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Seems scheisty that they throttle those with unlimited plans at 5GB and won't allow facetime. You get LIMITED data and they're telling you what you can do with it. Maybe just another way they pressure/entice you to switch off those pesky grandfathered plans (of which I have one and am not giving it up)
  20. iScott428 macrumors regular


    Feb 23, 2011
    Orlando, FL
    ****** YES. Hit them for the BS they have pulled with the unlimited plans too! OPEN UP YOUR SPECTRUM AT&T
  21. 0815 macrumors 68000


    Jul 9, 2010
    here and there but not over there
    I hope AT&T looses this one ... sick of AT&T screwing its customers by limiting the features (remember how long it took AT&T to support MMS, while the rest of the world was already enjoying it on the iPhone?)

    I am just afraid that if they are forced to allow it, that they will only allow it if I give up my unlimited data plan and switch to one of the stupid shared plans.
  22. Amazing Iceman, Sep 18, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2012

    Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

    Amazing Iceman

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida, U.S.A.
    Well, the plan is not to kill AT&T, but to twist or bend their arm until they give up their evil ways of trying to milk their customers.
  23. MaxxTraxx macrumors 6502

    Jul 2, 2008
    They'll justify raising their prices though if they lose.
  24. 0815 macrumors 68000


    Jul 9, 2010
    here and there but not over there
    AT&T official argument is that they can do this because it is a stock app and not a downloaded app? Maybe Apple should make a move and remove it from iOS6 and offer it as additional download ... Apple must also be sick of AT&T since they limit iPhone functionality for no good reason.

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