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I feel sorry for these people since they are way overpaying for their plan.
I paid $299 for my iPhone 5s 2 years ago with a 2-year plan... grandfathered into unlimited data... $65 a month.

These NEXT plans are designed to rape people that don't understand the value of actually paying for something up front.
 
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Bottom line is, they save money by not having to subsidize the phone for $450 up front. Period. This helps them MUCH more than it could ever help the customer.

As opposed to fronting the entire $650+ for a 0% loan to the consumer for 30 months, as you get with Next?

Yeah, your math doesn't quite work there.
 
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Hope this doesn't migrate into Canada - I'm loving my 2-year "subsidized" Telus contracts wherein they give me a further 60% hardware kick back - a new iPhone every 2 years does it for me.
 
Like texting and upgrading technology every two years or sooner. My family doesn't text nor desires smartphones. I don't even see option for flip-phones on the AT&T website.
As I said, nobody forces them to upgrade to new phones every two years. And if they don't use smartphones, they get the reduced access fee. You don't have to use a Next installment plan with Mobile Share. In fact, using your phone (smartphone or not) for a long time rather than constantly upgrading is one of the best ways to save money. With the Mobile Share plans everybody can choose whether they want to upgrade or not.
I pay $30 for 3GB now. Why would I want to give up 1GB and pay the same price?
If the whole plan were to become less expensive for your mom, I'm sure she'd be happy to share the savings with you. That's why you should check how the total plan costs compare. And if you need more than 2GB, you can go up to the next tier.
Like I said, AT&T doesn't seem to be a viable option any longer.
Well, you seem to have made up your mind without even checking the real numbers.
 
As much as I hate AT&T, I think this is a right move, separating the cost of phone and service. For sooo long people here in the US have thought that an iPhone costs only $200. I've seen numerous confused faces when they're told that they are paying $650+ for their shiny new iPhone every year. Teaching these points to my shared plan of 9 people was one of the hardest things I had to do and I guarantee you half of them still think that they got their phones "free" using Next.

Disclaimer: my carrier is AT&T!

But I didn't pay anything when I walked out of the store with a new phone! The phone was free! They actually lowered the price from $199 to free! Lol
 
Good question and I've been thinking about it too. I think the sequence will be:
  • get February bill
  • call AT&T and inform them that you want out of your contract, referencing no-ETF offer
  • ask AT&T to unlock your device (maybe it can be done all in the same phone call)
  • set up service with TMobile and ask the them to port the number
I don't think AT&T prorates your charges for the final month, so you might end up eating that (maybe you can be savvy and time it right to get the most out of your last month before they generate your next bill).

If you have Tmobile ship you a sim card, obviously there is some time lost there... don't know how that works if your service with AT&T has ended. I'm hoping I can stop by a Tmobile store and get a sim card from them immediately. Can you tell I haven't switched phone companies for an unhealthy period of time?

ETA: I still have my old iPhone 5s, which is unlocked. What I *might* do is set up service with Tmobile right as I'm cancelling with AT&T. If there's a bit of a delay (like getting things sorted with AT&T before they'll agree to unlock my 6s), I can just have the Tmobile service going with my old 5s. Then when everyone's done with AT&T and the 6s is properly unlocked, I'll pop the Tmobile sim in there. But I guess if I did it this way, I'd lose my phone number, so maybe not. If I had to be without cell service for a couple days, I could manage.

I will do exactly the same. I'm in a lucky situation, I have 100x2 unlimited t-mo plan which I use for int. roaming only. I'm going to port my numbers over the T-mo numbers.

Att is going to be alone soon cleaning snow fro Direct TV antenna
DISCONNECT THIS SEASON LOLOLOL

http://about.att.com/newsroom/put_down_the_phone_for_the_holidays.html
 
The "subsidy" was baked into the cost of the data plan. You were paying AT&T back, and then some. If you were on an MVNO you'd easily pay half of the monthly cost and save yourself hundreds of $$ over a two-year period.
I pay $65 a month, paid $299 for my phone on a 2-year contract (unlimited data as well)... thats a total of $1859 over 24 months. So, over that 2-year plan... its approx $77.45 a month for unlimited data...
The problem is, I DONT NEED A NEW PHONE EVERY YEAR.... Im now out of contract and it only costing me $65 a month, which lowers my total price per month the longer I keep my 2 year old phone.

The problem is, the entitled generation doesn't understand the value of anything... just "what can I get now".
 
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They want you paying $100.00/mo for the service, and a perpetual monthly fee (subscription) for the phone. They will let you upgrade, but you'll essentially be renting your phone. Remember back in the old days when you didn't actually own your landline, but rented it? Back when AT&T had a monopoly? Well, it's going back to that.
 
And are these jokers in AT&T gonna lower the bill now that they don't subsidize the phones?
Heck no!
How can some companies get away with murders like these?

Actually, that's exactly what AT&T does - they lower the bill. I'm on a family plan with 5 lines and every line on a NEXT plan has a monthly discount. It's actually cheaper to have 5 NEXT lines than 5 two-year contracts. Even with payments for 5 iPhones. The discount for using NEXT makes the plan quite comparable, and if you keep the phone longer than two years (aka paying it off in full) then it gets even cheaper per month.

If you're on an unlimited plan, that's a different story, but for family plans, I don't see where NEXT is more expensive...
 
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Currently I pay about $130 per month for 2 unlimited data lines w700 shared call minutes.
Me too and people don't think subsidized phones are a good deal. I upgraded to the iPhone 6s 64gb from a 5s and only paid $99 plus tax with my subsidized unlimited data plan after I sold my 5s. My bill is currently around $140.00 a month for two iPhones with unlimited data.

Next time I will do the Apple plan.
 
Oh wow...had no idea that AT&T was still around or that people still used them for phone service. Weird.
 
Let see your math/logic.
What's a better deal for AT&T? pay $450 upfront for your device or have you pay for your device yourself in full and pick up the interest portion only?

It's simple. In one case ATT pays $450 for your device up front (you pay $200) and you slowly pay them back over two years through inflated fees for wireless service.

In the other case, ATT pays $650 for your device up front and you slowly pay them back over two years through equal installments on a 0% loan.

In the latter case, ATT is out more cash at the beginning, they are loaning it to you for free in exchange for purchasing service from them.

The Next plans may or may not be a better deal than the legacy stuff dependent on individual circumstances, but the assertion that they come out way ahead by offering 0% loans on the full cost of devices is just plain silly.
 
Many large corporations negotiate multi year contracts wth the carriers. I believe the above is meaning they aren't ending the 2 year contracts for corporate paid/owned contracts.

Not 100% sure what this means if you pay for your own personal service but utilize your companies FAN.

I have an employer supplied phone running custom apps. It has unlimited data, unlimited Verizon to Verizon minutes, but charges for text and non-Verizon calls. And we are still on the normal upgrade cycles. You have an option to pay $15 a month and use the phone as your personal phone as well. We also get 28% off on our Verizon bills for our personal phones. They offered me an early upgrade, but it would be on a payment plan for the phone. Not really interested. I'm just waiting until my contract runs out for the per-line charge to drop from $40 to $20. Maybe I'll splurge for some more data. I think it sucks that they are only giving the bigger plans the free 2GB per month for life.
 
I don't think that would work for me. I pay ~$210 a month for 3 iPhones with unlimited data and 1 dumb phone. That includes unlimited texts for all phones and we share 850 minutes. I guess soon I would add an extra $5 per iPhone for unlimited data so that would bring me to $225.
I just found out that T-mobile is offering 4 lines of unlimited data for $180.

It's in the fine print below.
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/family-data-plans.html
 
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They will let you upgrade, but you'll essentially be renting your phone. Remember back in the old days when you didn't actually own your landline, but rented it? Back when AT&T had a monopoly? Well, it's going back to that.
Actually, it has nothing to do with renting or leasing. Next is a zero-interest, zero-down installment plan. You can either pay the phone off normally, or trade it for a new one after a certain number of installments. If you pay it off it's yours to keep.
 
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