Yes this would work for very basic, mainly data driven apps. But for a solid, fast, and robust application, those languages are extremely simplistic compared to C/ObjC. Once you get out of the realm of having a simple database with some fields being viewed on the screen, you need a real OOP language. The most advanced application I can see with this approach is the most advanced OSX widget you can find. They're great for displaying a simple RSS feed or the weather. But more than that, and it's not really feasible.
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Yes this would work for very basic, mainly data driven apps. But for a solid, fast, and robust application, those languages are extremely simplistic compared to C/ObjC. Once you get out of the realm of having a simple database with some fields being viewed on the screen, you need a real OOP language. The most advanced application I can see with this approach is the most advanced OSX widget you can find. They're great for displaying a simple RSS feed or the weather. But more than that, and it's not really feasible.
Right, except you aren't also running a Brew desktop OS on your Mac. Brew type phones and the like are a whole different, albeit un-evolved breed. The carriers control what you get sent over to your phone, the whole thing is cheesy, and as far as I know, no really useful or impressive Brew applications have ever been released.
I at least, think of the iPhone more of a Laptop/Mac/PDA rather than a phone. And in all 3 of the former, I can customize it and load the 3rd party applications I need directly to it. If Apple keeps their "approval only" approach, I guarantee that you will see no more than 10 "approved" applications in the next 1-2 years. Again, look at the iPod games selection. Even if they do open up approval more, it will most definitely be a process that small (and excellent) developers won't be able to get their hands on or ever have the chance to use.
Hmm, the security implications of doing that is numerous. I'm a consumer and i wouldn't trust google docs with my documents.. why would i?.. what happens if i cannot access the network for some reason?... Can google gurantee absolute security?. What about data charges.. will it be free while i am uploading/downloading my document?. If i am using google apps, does that mean i am continuosuly connected to the google server, thus encuring unimaginable data charges (or does this mean i must get unlimited data plan)?.
What if i am a midsize business with 1000 employees.. do i have to get them all unlimited data plans just so they can do google docs?.
Google docs on a phone sounds like a good idea until you start to ask questions.
Pending Exchange push capabilities the CTO of my company has approved the purchase of 60 8 GB iPhones for our salespeople and upper management. There's been talk of them upgrading from older Blackberries but our CTO is holding off until full specs of the iPhone are solid. C'mon Apple - make it sync flawlessly with Exchange servers and you have a serious winner in the business community.
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it will....dont forget you are dealing with ATT they are huge in the corporate world.
it will....dont forget you are dealing with ATT they are huge in the corporate world.
Why does Blackberry have such a lock on the market? Are there IP issues? The can't have a lock on the ability to push from Exchange, can they?
To do this, Apple will have to allow AT&T to develop applications - thus open up the iPhone to them. Maybe, this will happen, but its a lot of work.
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I have small clients, I consider them friends. I care more about the last episode of survivor than the stock market. My desktop picture will probably be a picture of my daughter playing at the beach or a picture of my wife's boobs. I am not importantThe iPhone is for me.
LOL!!!
Okay, I was not sure about getting one but now, the way you put it, the iPhone is for me (too)!
Microsoft is surely right. ALL business users are identical and have identical needs
Ahem.
Thank you for actually taking the time to get that picture. Its been pretty lame seeing how many people get this wrong.
Whats getting people is that you don't get the push from exchange server like a blackberry. But frankly, that's just temporary...you can still pull the email down, and soon to come will be a push system, even for Exchange.
I have never used an exchange account, but from what I understand there is a lot more to it than just checking email. While the iPhone looks like it can check an exchange email account, what about the calendar/scheduling stuff, I wonder if they'll do anything with it.
Well, I for one never have a spare battery, since changing the battery means downtime and hanging up during that important phone call. I bring a charger with me, so instead of 2 charges with downtime in between, I can keep the phone going almost indefinitely without interruption. So the iPhone wouldn't (for me) lost out by not having an easily replaceable battery.
I'd agree that the media player aspect is largely a non-issue for most business users, though the large capacity is a plus. (Actually, for my company - software for the media/advertising industry - a media playing phone would be very useful if the iPhone has some kind of video-out capability - easier to bring a phone to meetings than a laptop).
Whether 3rd party applications ever appear or not, the file formats that the iPhone supports will be crucial. Good Flash support is crucial, given how powerful Flash is becoming these days.
It appeals to me as a business phone (compared to my recent phones) because of:
- Fast, responsive UI.
- Larger screen for reading text.
- Large storage capacity.
- Visual voicemail (not having to listen through dozens of messages to get at the one that matters, oh yes!)
- Gesture based UI. (not having to click tiny buttons in the corners with my stylus to scroll up and down, then click a tiny button to go to the next/previous document).
- Likelihood of excellent integration with iSync/iCal for contacts & schedules (this is, after all, a Mac site).
Negatives:
- Lack of 3G - the biggie.
- No push email - though not a major issue for me personally.
With regards to the battery, I think a big plus is that this iPhone will work with the sync cable/USB charger combo AND the various battery-powered chargers that we now use with iPods. And it's true that lots of people do not walk around with spare batteries. I know I sure don't, and I'm certain I'd forget to charge the spare.