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For those of you pining to switch to Sprint, remember that neither Sprint nor Verizon can handle data and voice connections at the same time. That's a huge loss for me, as I can't count the number of times I use the two together.

Are you assuming the new iPhone won't be LTE? Or perhaps ppl switching won't buy an LTE device?
 
I agree with you except for 3. Why is it dump to move away from an unlimited plan. I have an unlimited plan from the get go, but I plan on switching to the shared plans when the new iPhone comes out. Why? Why should I keep my unlimited? It's pointless! So I get to use more then 3gb and not get charged, so what. At the throttled speed its no better then having sprint, it's useless.

Yes, my comment was only related to Face Time though.

Of course whatever plan works best is what people should do.

I have 4 iphones on my account, so I will check out if the shared plan makes sense .
 
....so I will check out if the shared plan makes sense .

This attitude violates MR standards of behavior. Analyzing facts and making a decision that benefits you is frowned upon, at least based on this thread. Rather, you must immediately condemn AT&T as greedy, unfair, and any other epithet you can think of or create. Changes like this must benefit all or they can benefit no one. :D
 
It's a house of cards

Imagine, if everyone could do Facetime via 3G/4G/LTE, and then did, the network would falter. But AT&T will gladly improve their network by charging you for using the service.
 
Apple can't. the data has to go over AT&T's network, Apple doesn't control the network. Apple don't have as much power as you think.

The ONLY reason AT&T is able to block Facetime on the iPhone is because Apple gave them that power.

Otherwise it'd just be another data stream.
 
This attitude violates MR standards of behavior. Analyzing facts and making a decision that benefits you is frowned upon, at least based on this thread. Rather, you must immediately condemn AT&T as greedy, unfair, and any other epithet you can think of or create. Changes like this must benefit all or they can benefit no one. :D

BS...if AT&T forced me to a shared plan, but offered a more reasonable charge per GB of data, I might moan a little, but nothing like I'm saying here. Both AT&t and Verizon are hiking up their per GB charge more than their current plans with limits.

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The ONLY reason AT&T is able to block Facetime on the iPhone is because Apple gave them that power.

Otherwise it'd just be another data stream.

It's most likely a requirement of their contract. I'm sure Apple is not allowed to just release features that could affect the network w/o AT&T getting to approve it.
 
BS...if AT&T forced me to a shared plan, but offered a more reasonable charge per GB of data, I might moan a little, but nothing like I'm saying here. Both AT&t and Verizon are hiking up their per GB charge more than their current plans with limits.

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It's most likely a requirement of their contract. I'm sure Apple is not allowed to just release features that could affect the network w/o AT&T getting to approve it.

So Apple didn't free us from the shackles of service providers? :confused:
 
Ah, yes, discourse on a discussion forum will get AT&T to change their pricing. Thinking that talking solves problems is delusional, right up there with having good intentions is the same as good results.

WTF are you talking about? Did you read any of the posts (including mine) about filing a complaint with the FCC? People discussing the financial impact (good/bad) on their monthly cell is somehow non-productive?

So are you going to just cry about people discussing this topic on a forum, or do you have ANY constructive suggestions on action to take, or are you just going to continue to ridicule others?

Well....?

Yup, just what I thought. Another internet tough guy. Put up or shut up and go away. If you worked for my company you would be on my short list of expendable staff due to your hostile and non-constructive attitude.
 
WTF are you talking about? Did you read any of the posts (including mine) about filing a complaint with the FCC? People discussing the financial impact (good/bad) on their monthly cell is somehow non-productive?

So are you going to just cry about people discussing this topic on a forum, or do you have ANY constructive suggestions on action to take, or are you just going to continue to ridicule others?

Well....?

Yup, just what I thought. Another internet tough guy. Put up or shut up and go away. If you worked for my company you would be on my short list of expendable staff due to your hostile and non-constructive attitude.
Never mind. I forgot myself. The only acceptable response is to pile on AT&T. I will leave this thread to such posters. Bye.
 
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Not exactly accurate. When you upgraded from the original iPhone to the 4, you were moved from one unlimited data plan to a new unlimited data plan. Remember that you used to be charged $20/mo for data, and when you upgraded to the 4, you started paying $30. The $20 plan was only for EDGE devices, whereas the $30 plan was to encompass 3G devices.

Good point. I'm still hoping we will get to keep our unlimited as they allowed the last time I was moved from Edge to 3G.

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Sorry, I don't understand your comment at all. What does the national covage map have anything to do with coverage where I live (that does have LTE) or whether they can provision a device for unlimited LTE or not? There no relation there at all.

I'm just saying that since the majority of AT&T customers cannot access LTE, then I would think that they would not charge customers for a service their customers cannot access. LTE was released in 10 cities last summer, yet there was no extra charge for those customers that had 4G devices which could access that service. I am still thinking that AT&T is not at the point where they would start forcing people off of an unlimited plan to a LTE plan because LTE is still not as widely available.
 
Aaannnd.. AT&T just disabled my iPhone's 3G/4G since I went over the 3GB "limit" on my unlimited plan. :mad:

As I understand it, there is a "soft" limit on unlimited plans that varies by market. It's not really unlimited in the purest since of the word.

Look at the bright side, before I worked for AT&T I had a Verizon unlimited plan. When I went over, they canceled my my account without warning. Which is the actually reason that I hate Verizon to this day.
 
It still shows 4G and shows a full signal, however they sent me a text message saying I've been throttled. I can't load any webpages since they just time out. Speedtest says I am getting 0.01Mbps downsteam. This is worse than E. :(
Then they haven't disabled anything.
You're simply been throttled.
The 0.01Mbps is suspect though as even the throttled speed is faster than that.
They are supposed to be giving you speeds in similar to EDGE, not dial up.
I would call and complain.
 
I have unlimited data and could care less what you think.
Im not slowing you down, Im just using what I am entitled to use, being that I pay for it.

Even better is I just signed up for ATT Feb 2011 as a new customer and got unlimited data :)

Gotta love the ld iPhone 2g unlimited data trick :D

Wait, you could care less? And did the thought ever occur to you that what you are entitled to use may be slowing us down? I don't care if you pay $1M per month for it, but you are slowing people down if you use a lot of data. I don't really care if I'm slowed down since I actually want mine to be slower anyway.
 
ATT wants you to run down your shared data simultaneously with two phones running video chat.
 
No way !

I'm not paying a single dime extra for nonsense! AT&T has a horrible data speed it's not consistent I can't imagine how bad Facetime over HSPA+ will perform!
 
Steve Jobs would not have allowed Apple to be bullied by the carriers.

I'm going to have to disagree. I think Mr Jobs set the precedent by doing just the opposite. He allowed AT&T to push him around and disable technology, such as tethering, by disallowing it through the app store.
 
Let's Look At The Bright Side...

Maybe the pricey fees charged for cell phone data will compel some people to stop wasting precious time staring at a smartphone screen.
 
"you" need to calm down and realize 90% of people are not in your boat with 100 Devices hot shot. Most people have 1-3 devices and are tired of Corporate greed and swindling.

Uh, 100 devices? I guess your math ranks right there with your intelligence! The plans are not intended for 1-3 devices, but primarily for 3+ devices. Again read, rather than hate out of ignorance!

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Before spouting rude ignorance, you should do the math for people with fewer than 3 devices. For the average joe with an iPhone and an iPad, these plans are ridiculously expensive for the amount of data they are offering. And yes, I realize Verizon is even pricier. The whole thing pisses me off. The future of mobile data consumption in the US is not looking good.

Again! The is not designed or people with 1-3 devices. LOL, speaking of the ignorance I was talking about!
 
Never mind. I forgot myself. The only acceptable response is to pile on AT&T. I will leave this thread to such posters. Bye.

So nothing in the way of constructive thinking except to tell people there's nothing they can do about it, except roll over and let a corporation tell you what you can do with data bandwidth/capacity that you already paid for soley to get you to change your contract with them? Is that all you have? Is that the Liberty you refer to in your sig?
 
I wonder how many people are actually still on it and using more than 2/3GB. I bet the number is very small. This seems more a reaction to Verizon and perhaps some other strategy.

17 out of 19 people at my firm are on an unlimited data plan. Only 1 of them has used over 2 GB of data.
 
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