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So all these carriers can actually offer unlimited data if they want to. That data traffic congestion they made up as an excuse before doesn't actually exist at all?
 
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Let me guess - it's free, but in order to remove it, you pay an extra $100 per month?

Oh, and the total bandwidth is halved since you "don't need" as much data now? You have to pay another $300 per month in order to go back to the normal limit?

I would never have guessed that anyone who was intelligent enough to type could also be this ignorant. Let me help you by using simple concepts:

Let's say you have a 1 gig data cap before you start paying more.
Let's then say that there are two movies you'd like to stream.
Each would use 1 gig of data at 1080 and 0.5 gig of data at 480.
Are you with me so far. If not, I'm not sure I can make this any simpler for you.
But let's assume you are able to follow.
Now, you have a choice if you don't want to go over your data cap.
You can watch 1 movie in HD or 2 movies in SD.
IT IS YOUR CHOICE. What in the world is AT&T doing that is making so many of you act like you have zero understanding of anything other than your desire to act idiotically? I can't stand to participate in or read the stupidity of these forums anymore. The forum could make a lot of money by selling subscriptions to you people who need a special type of forum to express your lunacy.
 
So the downgraded video will still count against your data plan? Who in their right mind would think this is even close to being competitive with T-Mobile?

Left my AT&T 6S Plus on the train two weeks ago; I had to use a T-mobile iPhone SE as backup until I was able to retrieve my phone from Lost n Found this past Wednesday.

T-mobile is absolute crap. It was constant dropped calls with reception so bad that I couldn't even connect to the internet in some places. I was seriously going to switch to T-mobile once I paid off my iPhone from ATT NEXT, but I think I'll stick with AT&T.
 
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I like Verizon as the least of the major evils. I pay $80/month for my iPhone 7 and a iPad with a cellular radio. ATT IMO, is the world's largest virus!!
 
My guess is they are wanting to avoid the FCC. The FCC has been hassling T-mobile over net neutrality issues with binge on. One of the reasons is they make it so partner video doesn't count against your plan, but if the company doesn't partner with them they still count it against your plan. The way AT&T is doing it all videos are being treated the same as long as it is technologically possible for them.

If the United States would update their infrastructure -and put into law that the telecoms must install the highest bandwidth fiber everywhere -and share it and the cost from their profits- then this would not be an issue and throttling could disappear. Unfortunately, given the general greed of every single one of these companies, you could have 300 Petabyte/sec internet in every corner of the nation and these bastards would still find an excuse to throttle.

"Help! Our NSA sniffers can't keep up analyzing all of this 4k World of Warcraft activity!" :rolleyes:
 
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I like Verizon as the least of the major evils. I pay $80/month for my iPhone 7 and a iPad with a cellular radio. ATT IMO, is the world's largest virus!!

AT&T hates me. I've been using 25GB a month on the grandfathered plan lol. It once sent me an email comparing my plan versus their "better" plan. Their plan had me paying ~$40 extra a month. It was the most ridiculous, obviously automated, comparison I've ever seen.
 
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I've been with AT&T for over 10 years now and while it hasn't been perfect, it's been a decent relationship with them. I've found it's best when I keep my relationship with AT&T focused exclusively on services and procure my hardware elsewhere. I have yet to trade in anything with them, nor do I ever plan to. I like keeping them as my service provider and they generally do a decent job at it. Most months, I don't even have to interact with them, which is great as I like to interact with them 0 times.
 
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Love how everyone complains about an optional, free service that they are providing to their customers. OPTIONAL and FREE being the key words. If you don't like 480p, don't use it. Simple. Everyone has to complain though that ATT isn't giving everyone something they can use for free.
 
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The lesson everyone learned from T-Mobile is you can make customers think anything by changing the marketing to seem like they are getting more. Case in point, T-Mobile defacto eliminated unlimited data from their data plan options and called it free at a lower quality with for-pay options to get that was previously free. AT&T has gone a step further and has eliminated unlimited data in the home without upgrading its infrastructure while proudly offering to downgrade video quality. It's hard to see how a serious cord cutter would choose AT&T with their slow internet options especially if you have any interest in 4K streaming in the near term.
 
Love how everyone complains about an optional, free service that they are providing to their customers. OPTIONAL and FREE being the key words. If you don't like 480p, don't use it. Simple. Everyone has to complain though that ATT isn't giving everyone something they can use for free.

You need to understand that most intelligent people have already left this forum. More will leave. Only the haters and bashers will remain in a forum that they crave and that the owners allow and want to thrive. Remember ad revenue is based upon the number of posts, not the quality of the posts. A forum with integrity and self respect would never allow the crap that exists here to continue. But money speaks.

Of course, I'll be kicked off the board very soon for my recent comments. I just can't help trying to stifle stupidity when I see it, and lord knows this board is full of it.
 
omg you guys, look. Netflix is terrible too!

Oh, wait. We like that company so it's ok that they did the same thing? Ok, got it.
 

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I would never have guessed that anyone who was intelligent enough to type could also be this ignorant. Let me help you by using simple concepts:

Let's say you have a 1 gig data cap before you start paying more.
Let's then say that there are two movies you'd like to stream.
Each would use 1 gig of data at 1080 and 0.5 gig of data at 480.
Are you with me so far. If not, I'm not sure I can make this any simpler for you.
But let's assume you are able to follow.
Now, you have a choice if you don't want to go over your data cap.
You can watch 1 movie in HD or 2 movies in SD.
IT IS YOUR CHOICE. What in the world is AT&T doing that is making so many of you act like you have zero understanding of anything other than your desire to act idiotically? I can't stand to participate in or read the stupidity of these forums anymore. The forum could make a lot of money by selling subscriptions to you people who need a special type of forum to express your lunacy. No wonder Trump won the election.

Or, you could do T-Mobile ONE and watch as many movies as you want in SD without ever going over, or pay a little bit more if you want to watch all those movies in glorious HD, also without ever going over. No more of this data cap crap.
 
These ideas are just terrible. Totally backward. I don't want to hear about features coming next year that make video quality worse over LTE...I want to hear that they've poured money into the infrastructure and now it's so great you can stream 1080p over cellular and not even worry about it.
 
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ATT is just a pile of criminals. The creep got elected and so they figure they can override the net neutrality rules, and any other gov't regulation - its a thing! It's not a feature, its just throttling, and bad service, and trying to screw you out of every dime you have. Most of you are paying $!00-$200 a month or more for cable service plus phone, or whatever. It's a lot of money, especially if you multiply it by 120 million. We used to use rabbit ears, and while I am not suggesting a return to that, 120 million * $150 a month average, well that's plenty. This is just greed, on a mythic scale.
 
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If the United States would update their infrastructure -and put into law that the telecoms must install the highest bandwidth fiber everywhere -and share it and the cost from their profits

Yeah government run anything always works real well. /s

So you're saying the government should tell businesses how to operate and force regulations on them that deincentivize them from progress?

Sad mindset. Why don't you start a business and the government can come and take a chunk of your profits and dictate what is to be done with it. You can call it Syria Wireless. Government regulation worked so well for the CLECs and Airlines. Take a business history lesson. Jeez.
 
For most, I think the outrage is not the ability to do this, its the fact that it is free to stream 1080p on T-Mobile plans with Binge-On, whereas AT&T is still eating through your Data Cap regardless of quality.

I have T-Mobile's Unlimited Plans (before ONE), where it was 4 lines for $150 and $30 per line thereafter, 14 GB Hotspot. Have binge on switched off.
 
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